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[Maximus]

According to History Robbin, Cypriots wanted Enosis - but this was denied by yours truly in cahoots with the US and Turkey in the 50's.

You call the agreements of 1960 independence? Your a joker.

You think that the results of the illegal invasion shouldn't be reversed? Your a joker.

You think Britain is actually a guarantor of the sovereign integrity and independence of Cyprus? what a joker.

You think Britain did not get those bases in Cyprus through blackmail, subterfuge and military conquest? your a joker.

Not a joker ..... just being realistic. Anyway, this tread is about Ukraine which like just Cyprus in 1974, I doubt the Americans even knew where it was until a few days ago and again, like Cyprus, the world will move on in a very short time and all this will be history and forgotten, except by Ukrainians........... whatever the result.

Didn't you know that America and Britain are also guarantors of Ukraine? What are you saying bro?

Mr Kravchuk pointed out that Britain and America have a special obligation to safeguard Ukraine. A few months after he left office, both countries joined Russia to sign the Budapest Memorandum of 1994, binding them to uphold the “independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine”. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ignty.html

[B25]

Huh? UK a guarantor yeah ok, now let me get up off the floor.

[Mustiejodu]

To TCs it's intervention, to GCS it's invasion. Do you honestly think anyone apart from GCS care about the terminology you use. The TCs on the side you call invasion live there and feel safe from you guys. The TCs that want to unite with the GCS were not affected prior to 1974 so they have this fantasy in their heads that it will be all pally pally again. They are naive and they live in the land of the dream same as the GCS that were not seriously affected by the war. Let's be happy that we are all alive and there will never be war between us as long as turkey is keeping us safe. Turkey keeps you at bay and ensures that no one including GCS benefit the peace that the protection of turkey brings. You may not like or believe what I am saying and totally object to it but you can't deny that since 1974 there has been no conflict between both ethnic groups at a large scale or small. There may very rarely be individual incidents but that is to be expected.

[Maximus]

To TCs it's intervention, to GCS it's invasion. Do you honestly think anyone apart from GCS care about the terminology you use. The TCs on the side you call invasion live there and feel safe from you guys. The TCs that want to unite with the GCS were not affected prior to 1974 so they have this fantasy in their heads that it will be all pally pally again. They are naive and they live in the land of the dream same as the GCS that were not seriously affected by the war. Let's be happy that we are all alive and there will never be war between us as long as turkey is keeping us safe. Turkey keeps you at bay and ensures that no one including GCS benefit the peace that the protection of turkey brings. You may not like or believe what I am saying and totally object to it but you can't deny that since 1974 there has been no conflict between both ethnic groups at a large scale or small. There may very rarely be individual incidents but that is to be expected.

You obviously cared about the terminology I used, because your first reply to me was about you correcting my terminology.

You are just another plonker that should go back with Turkey..

[Mustiejodu]

Go back to Greece. A big thanks to turkey for protecting us from the GCS. We are in debt to you forever. Call it illegal occupation or call it invasion. What ever makes you feel happy. Those of us that are on the side that you call all these propaganda crap are not the least bothered. Turkey cares less to an extent they don't even recognise your side only refers to you as the greek south. Say what ever you want but at the end of the day we will be safe under turkey's protection.

[Maximus]

Go back to Greece. A big thanks to turkey for protecting us from the GCS. We are in debt to you forever. Call it illegal occupation or call it invasion. What ever makes you feel happy. Those of us that are on the side that you call all these propaganda crap are not the least bothered. Turkey cares less to an extent they don't even recognise your side only refers to you as the greek south. Say what ever you want but at the end of the day we will be safe under turkey's protection.*

It was not Greek Cyprus before the invasion but now that the north has been repopulated by Turks from anatolia its the Greek South is it?

You will be just as safe (*you should be a Turkish citizen living in Turkey if you fell like this), inside Turkey and when she withdraws the problem in Cyprus will be resolved too. Insha Allah.

[Get Real!]

To TCs it's intervention, to GCS it's invasion. Do you honestly think anyone apart from GCS care about the terminology you use.

Oh I get it! So it’s all a matter of interpretation like if I stomp on your face with my size 47 DrMartens and call it “facial crazy paving”!

[Flying Horse]

[bill cobbett]

Like her or otherwise, this is Erato Kozakou Marcoullis (former CY Foreign Minister) with an address directed at the GB Foreign Secretary Mr Hague...

"... William Hague: "The world cannot just allow this to happen. The world cannot just say it is OK, in effect, to violate the sovereignty of another nation in this way."

This is what the British Foreign Secretary has said. Of similar content were the emphatic and categorical declarations of the other Western leaders and of the talkative, in this case, SG of NATO. It is not possible, they declare, for humanity to accept the violation of international law, the violation of the territorial integrity of an independent member state of the United Nations.... It is unacceptable for a country to invade militarily and to put under its control territory of another state....

But, sirs, your countries and your Organizations played dumb when during that tragic summer of 1974, your ally Turkey devoured the small independent Cyprus and violated ( tore apart in front of your eyes) every rule and principle of international law with its invasion, military occupation, importation of settlers into the occupied area, the forced disappearances, the destruction of cultural and religious heritage and ethnic cleansing.

40years later, the same moment that you are speaking loudly and assertively about Ukraine and you are rending your clothes in indignation, invoking values and principles that are being violated, you continue to play dumb in the case of Cyprus and you have buried deep in the dustbin of oblivion the continuing violation of international law by Turkey, who has unraveled and destroyed every meaning of the principles and values that you invoke and of international law, by her continuing, merciless and all out military occupation of part of the territory of Cyprus and her support of secessionist actions in the occupied territory.

With the seeds you have sowed, sirs, by allowing and tolerating for 40 long years the illegalities of the Turkish invader, this is the harvest you get. Hypocrisy and a policy of double standards eventually leads, sirs, to a lawless international system, porous in every sense. You can continue to cry out, but like the liar shepherd no one will listen to you, no one will believe you. No one. ..."

[Robin Hood]

Like her or otherwise, this is Erato Kozakou Marcoullis (former CY Foreign Minister) with an address directed at the GB Foreign Secretary Mr Hague...

"... William Hague: "The world cannot just allow this to happen. The world cannot just say it is OK, in effect, to violate the sovereignty of another nation in this way."

This is what the British Foreign Secretary has said. Of similar content were the emphatic and categorical declarations of the other Western leaders and of the talkative, in this case, SG of NATO. It is not possible, they declare, for humanity to accept the violation of international law, the violation of the territorial integrity of an independent member state of the United Nations.... It is unacceptable for a country to invade militarily and to put under its control territory of another state....

But, sirs, your countries and your Organizations played dumb when during that tragic summer of 1974, your ally Turkey devoured the small independent Cyprus and violated ( tore apart in front of your eyes) every rule and principle of international law with its invasion, military occupation, importation of settlers into the occupied area, the forced disappearances, the destruction of cultural and religious heritage and ethnic cleansing.

40years later, the same moment that you are speaking loudly and assertively about Ukraine and you are rending your clothes in indignation, invoking values and principles that are being violated, you continue to play dumb in the case of Cyprus and you have buried deep in the dustbin of oblivion the continuing violation of international law by Turkey, who has unraveled and destroyed every meaning of the principles and values that you invoke and of international law, by her continuing, merciless and all out military occupation of part of the territory of Cyprus and her support of secessionist actions in the occupied territory.

With the seeds you have sowed, sirs, by allowing and tolerating for 40 long years the illegalities of the Turkish invader, this is the harvest you get. Hypocrisy and a policy of double standards eventually leads, sirs, to a lawless international system, porous in every sense. You can continue to cry out, but like the liar shepherd no one will listen to you, no one will believe you. No one. ..."

And of course, even more so, the same statement can be made about Palestine and the Palestinians who have endured this treatment by Zionists for 65 years on a daily basis and it continues today! Israel has over 100 UN resolutions against it, including war crimes, and the UN has done nothing to enforce them ....... not even a single threat of a sanction against Israel!

When one country dominates the UN and can use its military might to ride roughshod over all others it clearly demonstrates that the UN is no longer fit for purpose.