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So what are you saying that your rep is not an official of a state? therefore he met with an assistant of an assistant?

Thats correct. He is there in his capacity as a representative of the GC community and not the Govt of Cyprus. VP we don't have any complexes about recognition you must remember. Our flag flies high in Brussels, NY and all the capitals in the world from our embassies. Our President gets head of state protocol when visiting a country, yours needs to wait at the carousel for his luggage.

So its no skin off our nose if these 2 guys represent their communities rather than the state.

Not in Ankara you dont, you are not recognized there we are used to it but its new and bit of a shock for you guys.

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So what are you saying that your rep is not an official of a state? therefore he met with an assistant of an assistant?

Thats correct. He is there in his capacity as a representative of the GC community and not the Govt of Cyprus. VP we don't have any complexes about recognition you must remember. Our flag flies high in Brussels, NY and all the capitals in the world from our embassies. Our President gets head of state protocol when visiting a country, yours needs to wait at the carousel for his luggage.

So its no skin off our nose if these 2 guys represent their communities rather than the state.

Not in Ankara you dont, you are not recognized there we are used to it but its new and bit of a shock for you guys.

We can live without Ankara, can you live without the world?

I'm not sure how i can get you to understand this. The side that insisted that the two negotiators meet with the Greek and Turkish ministries as representatives of their communities and not of a state was the GC side. This was no shock, no one bothered. I'm sorry to let you down.

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İ am not disagreeing with you but you have to be honest and admit that after so many years a little more fuss or media attention could have paid to this issue. Only shows how insignificant the Cyprus is to the rest of the world.

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İ am not disagreeing with you but you have to be honest and admit that after so many years a little more fuss or media attention could have paid to this issue. Only shows how insignificant the Cyprus is to the rest of the world.

Have no illussions as to the significance of the cyprus problem. This however was one of the conditions, that the trips be downgraded with as little press as possible. As i said before the only way a tc would be allowed to see the Greek government would be as an individual that represents his/her community. Naturally this would be reciprocated to the gc.

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İ am not disagreeing with you but you have to be honest and admit that after so many years a little more fuss or media attention could have paid to this issue. Only shows how insignificant the Cyprus is to the rest of the world.

Have no illussions as to the significance of the cyprus problem. This however was one of the conditions, that the trips be downgraded with as little press as possible. As i said before the only way a tc would be allowed to see the Greek government would be as an individual that represents his/her community. Naturally this would be reciprocated to the gc.

You still persist in not understanding that it would be no different if your leader went, they are unrecognized and therefore not allowed to meet with the leader of Turkey.

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Both Presidents Christofias and Anasstasiades have met a number of times with Erdogan in Brussels and in NY. Of course they wouldn't be received in Ankara and that is why the agreement was that representatives of the communities went to the capitals.

Why are you insisting that we be shocked that Ankara doesn't recognise the Republic of Cyprus? (At least selectively....they seem to recognise many parts of our constitution i.e treaty of gaurantee etc) This is no surprise and trust me makes no difference either way! We're a sovereign nation recognised by the entire world except for 1 country. We're members of the EU, the UN and a dozen other organisations. Why is it that big a deal if One country doesn't?

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Both Presidents Christofias and Anasstasiades have met a number of times with Erdogan in Brussels and in NY. Of course they wouldn't be received in Ankara and that is why the agreement was that representatives of the communities went to the capitals.

Why are you insisting that we be shocked that Ankara doesn't recognise the Republic of Cyprus? (At least selectively....they seem to recognise many parts of our constitution i.e treaty of gaurantee etc) This is no surprise and trust me makes no difference either way! We're a sovereign nation recognised by the entire world except for 1 country. We're members of the EU, the UN and a dozen other organisations. Why is it that big a deal if One country doesn't?

What was the price they put on it? somthing like 40 billion usd loss, thats a big deal Mr and if you cant see it then you are deluding yourself. The reason they do not recognize is because you only impliment parts of your constitiution to suit your own aims, without the TCs participation Turkey will never recognize the GC south as that would mean they would have to unrecognize the TRNC which they would only every do if there was a comprehensive solution.

What exactly have they come back with from Athens and Ankara? business cards?

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ok, i don't know how many more ways there is to write the same thing down.

2representatives of their communities went to Athens and Ankara because there is no way we'll allow somme pseudo official of a pseudo country to go parading into EU capitals pretending he's on official visits. We allowed this because it might help with this round of negotiations however made sure EVERYONE understood that these 2 are not officials of a state but community reps. So don't be disappointed this trip was downgraded both in the press and as protocol because thats the way it was agreed by us.


Ok?

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:lol: ok, i don't know how many more ways there is to write the same thing down.

2representatives of their communities went to Athens and Ankara because there is no way we'll allow somme pseudo official of a pseudo country to go parading into EU capitals pretending he's on official visits. We allowed this because it might help with this round of negotiations however made sure EVERYONE understood that these 2 are not officials of a state but community reps. So don't be disappointed this trip was downgraded both in the press and as protocol because thats the way it was agreed by us.


Ok?

It appears that you do not want to understand, so lets leave it.

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guess the turks didnt get the desired pr results from the two negotiators visits to ankara and athens and are now asking for anastasiadis and eroglu to do visits to the two capitals which ofcourse is not goingto happen:

http://www.ethnos.gr/article.asp?catid= ... d=63972747