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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby tsukoui » Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:30 am

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Paphitis wrote:Please cut it out with all your AKEL and Communist crap. Cyprus is as much part of Europe as Germany is. Our culture is aligned strongly with the values of Western Europe, North America and Australia.

When are you going to learn and let go of the Cold War relics. We are very happy with our identity and who we are and where we fit in as Cypriots within the EU.

Sure we got a lot of problems, but if the EU is ok for countries like UK, Germany, France, and Italy, then it is good enough for us as well.


Are you saying that if the Cold War ended as it did in 1989, the West will stop propping up the pseudo-state and Cyprus will be "liberated" like South Africa? Are they better off?


No I am not saying that! You are saying it!

It's all in your head. The West does not propup the illegal regime. In fact, they are helping the RoC now.

This is all AKEL crap. Not to mention the fact that AKEL led Cyprus or at least contributed significantly to the Coup from all the bullshit policies of non allignment which was a cover for closer ties to the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War.

And don't forget that the biggest Pariah State today is North Korea. A disgusting regime that has really fucked with the heads of ordinary Koreans. That is your legacy, so don't talk to us about the West.


Paphitis, I'd love to have a real talk with you about Marx. About material vs spiritual considerations and how we've moved on from the time of needing to reject Christian dogma absolutely for example. Or about economics and the possibilities opened up by cybernetics. Or about jealousy vs human rights. I personally think it is the whole world's legacy.
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby Paphitis » Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:35 am

tsukoui wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Please cut it out with all your AKEL and Communist crap. Cyprus is as much part of Europe as Germany is. Our culture is aligned strongly with the values of Western Europe, North America and Australia.

When are you going to learn and let go of the Cold War relics. We are very happy with our identity and who we are and where we fit in as Cypriots within the EU.

Sure we got a lot of problems, but if the EU is ok for countries like UK, Germany, France, and Italy, then it is good enough for us as well.


Are you saying that if the Cold War ended as it did in 1989, the West will stop propping up the pseudo-state and Cyprus will be "liberated" like South Africa? Are they better off?


No I am not saying that! You are saying it!

It's all in your head. The West does not propup the illegal regime. In fact, they are helping the RoC now.

This is all AKEL crap. Not to mention the fact that AKEL led Cyprus or at least contributed significantly to the Coup from all the bullshit policies of non allignment which was a cover for closer ties to the Warsaw Pact during the Cold War.

And don't forget that the biggest Pariah State today is North Korea. A disgusting regime that has really fucked with the heads of ordinary Koreans. That is your legacy, so don't talk to us about the West.


Paphitis, I'd love to have a real talk with you about Marx. About material vs spiritual considerations and how we've moved on from the time of needing to reject Christian dogma absolutely for example. Or about economics and the possibilities opened up by cybernetics. Or about jealousy vs human rights. I personally think it is the whole world's legacy.


Save it! It don't work and Cyprus has its rightful place in the EU and is alongside other Western European countries, North America, and Australia and that is where we belong!

We have our human rights and values sorted! Thanks!
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby tsukoui » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:04 am

Don't you think Turkey could do with a left wing party that wasn't illegal or do you support the current status quo between fascist army rule and so called "muslim" reformers?
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby Paphitis » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:10 am

tsukoui wrote:Don't you think Turkey could do with a left wing party that wasn't illegal or do you support the current status quo between fascist army rule and so called "muslim" reformers?


I don't particularly are and it would make no difference to Cyprus!

In Turkey, you have change of Governments but their Foreign Policies always remain the same. There policy on Cyprus also remains the same. The Communists of Turkey would try to screw us just as much if they could.
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby Paphitis » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:14 am

Oh and btw.

If I was a Turk then I would support the Military. It is the only institution that has managed to reform and modernize Turkey into a Modern State and embrace secularism as opposed to other fruit loopy countries in the region.

But gladly I am no Turk! I am a Cypriot. More in common with the values of Western Europe!
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby tsukoui » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:21 am

Paphitis wrote:Oh and btw.

If I was a Turk then I would support the Military. It is the only institution that has managed to reform and modernize Turkey into a Modern State and embrace secularism as opposed to other fruit loopy countries in the region.

But gladly I am no Turk! I am a Cypriot. More in common with the values of Western Europe!


I pity you Paphitis, you are willing to bend over backwards to join with the Western countries consumed by "White" guilt, but you're not prepared to envisage a left wing in Turkey consumed by "Turkish" guilt. Instead you end up fascist.
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby Paphitis » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:28 am

tsukoui wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh and btw.

If I was a Turk then I would support the Military. It is the only institution that has managed to reform and modernize Turkey into a Modern State and embrace secularism as opposed to other fruit loopy countries in the region.

But gladly I am no Turk! I am a Cypriot. More in common with the values of Western Europe!


I pity you Paphitis, you are willing to bend over backwards to join with the Western countries consumed by "White" guilt, but you're not prepared to envisage a left wing in Turkey consumed by "Turkish" guilt. Instead you end up fascist.


There is no "white guilt" in Europe, North America or Australia and why should there be.

We are part of the West, and many countries in the West are doing very well with very sound liberal values, democracy and a good way of life. That is where Cyprus belongs because we just so happen to lay the very foundations of most countries that you would deem as West.

That is who we are! We are not some AKEL tinpot, that blew Cypriots up through incompetence or who had some stupid fantasies of non alignment and brought the Coup which then led to the Turks!

I hope the Cypriot people keep you in the wilderness because I and many more Cypriots have had enough of your stupid Marxism.

You are no different to any fascist and I am not fascist.

At the end of the day, AKEL is just as guilty as the Coupists and EOKA B!

You people should be ashamed!
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby Mustiejodu » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:03 am

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GreekIslandGirl wrote:Not that I care one way or the other as this should be an anonymous forum to allow people to engage, but it puzzles me why you bother ...

Mustiejodu wrote:I am a female through and through and my husband is very kind and peacefull good hearted person .


Yet, the previous post ...

Mustiejodu wrote:I hate racist and anti TC s and my wife knows this yes .


What interests me more is ... why do you leave a space and then add the full stop?


Good pick up! He is a very dishonest person and his purpose is to taunt Cypriots.

Yes, people are free to post under anonymity, but if someone is here to ridicule Cyprus then we don't have to be all sweet and cuddly about that.

He is fair game as an enemy to Cyprus!
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I certainly had no intention to taunt anyone but once I started getting crappy remarks being made I realised the forum has good intentions but some of the members just can't help themselves with foolish remarks.

Everyone here are posting under anonymity , what makes you special ? All you have been doing is rediculing turkey.

Don't you see your own hypocricy and I started to think you was very cool . Did you yourself not make foul remarks about god in the other forum subjects .

I read all your remarks about god and christianity and my jaw just dropped. I was suprised positively that you were still allowed in this forum considering the strong influence the Orthodox Church has on everything especially on politics .

I think under the circumstances I am a well balanced piss taking person who taunts peoples opinions or better still encourages discussion by all means necessary. Look how much discussion the subject I brought up started!

I believe that your opinions of the Orthodox Church or christianity would most certainly put you in a very uncompromising situation with cypriots. I think you would be 100% classed as a enemy to cyprus.

I taunt political opinions but I never taunt a persons belief in their religion. That is sacred to each individual.

Everything else everyone sends text on are opinions,views of events,experiences,perceptions and there is freedom and we all have a freedom to opinion.

Like it was mentioned before cyprus is European so start acting European. You are no longer a cypriot, you are a European citizen. You no longer have the cyprus identity. Your passport is like mine which makes us the same citizen :lol: the difference is we have not lost all our identity as we still have the sterling . Where is that wonderful cyprus pound I used to use that was stronger than the pound?

We have seen the negative consequences of being part of this bull shit eu that's why we are having a referendum to opt out. They impose stupid regulations that even gives rights to criminals which is why there is more crime.

Unemployment will rise which it already has in cyprus. Your sovereignty is going if not gone already. Laws are made in Brussels not in Nicosia.

Not that the occupied area has done any better. That side is ruined by a invasion of aliens, all the cypriots on that side have pritty much stuck together in villages.

That is why I wrote WHat is so bad about being a cypriot.

This is a serious topic and not only it should be discussed here but action needs to be taken to stop all this influence from outsiders be it turkey one the eu. They are parasites.
GET YOUR FILTHYY HANDS OFF CYPRUS
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby CBBB » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:39 am

Mustiejodu wrote:I was suprised positively that you were still allowed in this forum considering the strong influence the Orthodox Church has on everything especially on politics .


This single sentence shows that you don't know what you are talking about. The politicians pay lip-service to the Archbishop, but very few people take much notice of what he says.

I won't mention the space before the full stop.
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Re: What is so bad about being a cypriot

Postby Mustiejodu » Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:58 am

And how do you know its lip service ? The fact that a priest is allowed to make political points or lip service as you put it does not shed good light on the strength of the political process. The archbishop of canterbury made a opinion in the uk last week that was deemed leaning towards political lightly and was slammed down . It's just not acceptable in any form or should it be entertained. The cypriots entertain this as you rightly admitted quote lip service . I don't but it.
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