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[kibris1571]

back to my dillemma,

how come none of u referred back to the true problems...

such as y is greece and their counterparts in cyprus so pro-terrorist
no one gave an explanation to that
didn't I point out that greece offered protection for the kurdish terorist leader,
or did u all democracy seeking fools miss that part

I think u overlooked, It is after all better for a greek to be indifferent towards terrorism dictated against turks and have it considered guerilla warfare. According to the confessions of past cought militants, they had training in greece that was supported monetarily by the GREEK GOVERNMENT.

So is terrorism a part of your so called bullshit democracy?

that brings up another point. How come you guys on this site are so entagled with the armenians and the kurds not to mention our brothers in azerbeycan? Seeking some potential alliance built on anti-turkism i assume. you guys sure plan ahead. Are u also trying to turn our brothers in azerbeycan against us? So now the issue extends its boarders out of cyprus. I get your mentallity - why not knockout two birds with one stone, why not destroy the turks in cyprus and help turkey get destroyed by investing in the future?

lets go to my other point, racism. what do u plan to do about that other than teach your kids? Gonna teach them how to make recipies with turkish bodies in them or commit massacres and enforce apartheid like they did prior to 1974?

how about this illegal business. Based on what stupid argument do you guys believe that turks are illegally living in cyprus. They have been living there since the invasion of cyprus since 1571. Thats more than 400 years, at least 5-6 generations. Saying they invaded us and colonized is a dumb argument by itself, if thats your case than america should belong the indians rather than the anglo saxons who have been there about 230 years, don't leave out australia and new zealand.

I also want to point out what would happen if gc and tc united. Since the turkish troops would be pulled out, the turks who would be outnumbered 4 to one would be first socially isolated to small enclaves, just like the blacks during apartheid, than they would be massacred just like they were during the 70's and before - that is why the turkish gov interfered.

so whats in for the turks of cyprus
1. They get to be massacred
2. They lose their lands, thats before they get massacred

so whats in for the greeks
1. They get to do the massacring
2. They get the lands of the turks illegally
3. They get a turk-free cyprus, every greek cypriots dream

lets not kid ourselves, the facts speak for themselves, u guys had one chance to unite make this turk-free cyprus dream of yours free and you blew it, thank god u blew it. As for me being cypriot - I'm not but I have relatives living there not to mention I'm a turk, so it concerns me

and I will hate greeks for as long as I live because of their actions of denying terrorism and the actroicities prior to 1974.

ps. bg_turk if ur [Edited By Admin] turkish, I hope the price of your treason will be death.
ps. what happened to all the turkish people on this site, did u ban them on purpose?

Admin note:
Please express you opinion without personal attacks and swearing.

[RAFAELLA]

European wannabe, your situation is getting realy serious....
You didn't have your Lexotanil yet?

[lysi]

KIBRIS1571, ARE YOU SOME KIND OF NAZI ? YOU ARE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR A CONCENTRATION CAMP GUARD.
TAKE YOUR ANTI-GREEK PROPAGANDA AND STICK IT UP YOUR KYBER PASS.

[zan]

European wannabe, your situation is getting realy serious....
You didn't have your Lexotanil yet?

Whats the matter Rafaella too racist for you? It is for me, but so is all that you write.

[bg_turk]

ps. bg_turk if ur [Edited By Admin] turkish, I hope the price of your treason will be death.

You are a sick turkish bozkurt nationalist. To people like you I can only say: long live democracy, freedom and human rights, and yes I am more than honored to commit treason to your sickeningly shauvinistic ideals.

Turkestan will be transformed into a modern secular and prosperous republic with or without people like yourself. Democracy, transparency, freedom, equality, prosperity will prevail, and your ugly nationalism will be exposed for all to see.

Death-mis, deneyemezsin bile, mahkemlerde surum surum surundureceim seni!

[bg_turk]

European wannabe, your situation is getting realy serious....

If he is born on the continent of Europe he is european, full stop. How can somebody be wannabe europeans, if they are already born in a European country?

Turkey is surrounded by European countries on all side, Cyprus in the South, Armenia in the East, Ukrain in the North, and Greece in the West. It is most natural to assume that Turkey right in the middle should be considered part of Europe as well.

[Piratis]

Geographically only a small part of Turkey belongs to Europe.

However "European" is not just geography, but is also certain group of cultures and principles that started to develop with the ancient Greeks, then the Romans and so on.

Do you think that the Turkish culture, tradition and principles are closer to the one of Europe or Asia?

How many Turks consider themselves as European? How many would still consider themselves European if Europe was in deep recession and they had nothing to gain by associating with it?

[bg_turk]

However "European" is not just geography, but is also certain group of cultures and principles that started to develop with the ancient Greeks, then the Romans and so on.

THat is a ridiculous assertion what are the common principles between Russia and Spain, between Iceland and Cyprus, between Italy and Norway. Scandinavians would lough into your face when you tell them that their culture is based on ancient greece and rome.

Do you think that the Turkish culture, tradition and principles are closer to the one of Europe or Asia?

European and Asian culture are not well defined cultures, but a mosaic of cultures. Turkish culture has aspects of both of them.

How many Turks consider themselves as European? How many would still consider themselves European if Europe was in deep recession and they had nothing to gain by associating with it?

I am born on the continent of Europe, and technically this makes me a european, but I have no problem calling myself asian nor do I insist on being a "european". I find this obsession with being "european" ridicilous, and it is only greeks with their inferiority complex that would insist on giving this otherwise meaningless concept so much significance to insult those turks born in asia as if it is shameful to be asian.
Cyprus is technically in Asia, why are you ashamed to call yourself asian?

[Piratis]

THat is a ridiculous assertion what are the common principles between Russia and Spain, between Iceland and Cyprus, between Italy and Norway. Scandinavians would lough into your face when you tell them that their culture is based on ancient greece and rome.

The principles now adopted by the EU are the common European principles. This is why Turkey has so much trouble accepting these principles. Changing the alphabet to Latin and creating a pseudo democracy are some of the ways that Ataturk tried to make Turkey European. But changing the image alone is not enough.

I am born on the continent of Europe, and technically this makes me a european, but I have no problem calling myself asian nor do I insist on being a "european".

You missed my point. If you go to Turkey and ask people how they define themselves, you will see that many (maybe the majority) does not even define themselves as European.

Cyprus is technically in Asia, why are you ashamed to call yourself asian?

The borders of Europe on our side are not well defined. Some geographers put us in Europe and some in Asia. However as a people we are European. Even if we lived on Mars we wouldn't be Martians, would we? So we call ourselves what we are, nothing beyond that.
You call yourself Bulgarian Turk. Does it mean you have something against Chinese because you don't call yourself Chinese?

[bg_turk]

The principles now adopted by the EU are the common European principles.

The EU is by far not the whole of Europe and the EU principles are by far not shared by all europeans. In fact the EU constitutes hardly 40% of the European landmass.

Europe is home to:
Belarussia, one of the most oppressive dictatorships.
Bosnia & Kosovo, the site of one of the most ferocious ethnic conflicts in recent history.
Moldova, where poverty has forced many to sell new-born babies.
Technically even Chechnya is part of Europe.

The borders of Europe on our side are not well defined. Some geographers put us in Europe and some in Asia. However as a people we are European. Even if we lived on Mars we wouldn't be Martians, would we? So we call ourselves what we are, nothing beyond that.
You call yourself Bulgarian Turk. Does it mean you have something against Chinese because you don't call yourself Chinese?

I have no problem with that, as long as you do not make it appear as if asians should be looked down upon. I am proud of my mongolian asian heritage.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/mongolia ... _large.jpg