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[Demonax]

so what you are saying to me is that if you decide to kick the shit out of me like in 63 terkey cannot help us.

I think what Maximus said is that if you want to live under Turkish 'protection' you should go and live in Turkey!

what is the matter with you greek boys. which bir does your brain not get. i live in my home and can get protection who ever i choose from.

It's over, Lordo. Better be a good boy in future. There ain't going to be a Turkish 'guarantee' so you need to show some civility towards your fellow citizens!

[kurupetos]

so what you are saying to me is that if you decide to kick the shit out of me like in 63 terkey cannot help us.

I think what Maximus said is that if you want to live under Turkish 'protection' you should go and live in Turkey!

what is the matter with you greek boys. which bir does your brain not get. i live in my home and can get protection who ever i choose from. what kind of control freaks are you lot producing south of the bloody border. fcuk off back to greece you brainless swine.

tcs will not vote for anything without protection. we rememeber how you kept your word last time.

Don't worry, I will be your new pimp.

[bill cobbett]

Less than 24 hours from the issue of the Joint Declaration brings more back-tracking and time-wasting today from the Irrelevant and Intransigent Eroglu of "trnc" .

This is what he had to say...

"... Eroglu: The joint declaration contains abstract and open to interpretation expressions

Turkish Cypriot daily Yeni Duzen newspaper (12.02.14) reports that the Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu has argued that the joint declaration, on which agreement between the community leaders was announced, contains expressions that are “abstract and open to interpretation” and therefore he does not believe that the Cyprus problem has been solved with such a declaration. In a statement yesterday after his meeting with President Anastasiades at the UN headquarters in the buffer zone near the closed International Airport in Nicosia, Eroglu said that “what will lead us to a comprehensive solution is a structured process which includes a give and take”.
He went on and added that within this framework they suggested a “defined negotiating process” and they pointed out that issues such as the sovereignty, the internal citizenship and the powers “should be concluded with concrete proposals by the sides through negotiations”. ..."

Clearly doesn't understand this bit of the Declaration...

7. "... The sides will seek to create a positive atmosphere to ensure the talks succeed. They commit to avoid blame games or other negative public comments on the negotiations..."

[bill cobbett]

... and Eroglu hasn't listened to what his boss Davutoglu said on the Joint Agreement...

"... According to the Yenidüzen newspaper, Davutoğlu, speaking on a television program, underlined that the joint statement agreed on by the two leaders is more than a joint statement, that it is a text that establishes the framework of the negotiations. ..."

[Maximus]

Bill.

I was wondering how long it would take the "Turkish" side to realize what they had signed and to revoke it.

Seriously, they don't recognize anything now, so what confidence does it inspire that a "solution" will hold and they will recognize anything in the future? Even his boss, Davutoblu was reported in the media talking about two separate states with motherlands after he supposedly agreed to the joint statement. They just don't get it.

They don't get that they are in a state of illegality, trying to reign over ruins.

[bill cobbett]

Bill.

I was wondering how long it would take the "Turkish" side to realize what they had signed and to revoke it.

Seriously, they don't recognize anything now, so what confidence does it inspire that a "solution" will hold and they will recognize anything in the future? Even his boss, Davutoblu was reported in the media talking about two separate states with motherlands after he supposedly agreed to the joint statement. They just don't get it.

They don't get that they are in a state of illegality, trying to reign over ruins.

Oooh... gonna have to find the Davutoglu statement you refer to Maxi.... later.

Didn't we have a foretaste of the back-tracking a few weeks ago with the Football Agreement...???

Must be Turkish Policy to sign Agreements, issue Joint Declarations etc and then and within hours issue back-tracking denials. ...

[Maximus]

Once the talks are underway, Davutoglu said that in order to build confidence, the representatives from the Turkish Cypriot side and the Greek Cypriot side would travel to “each other’s mainland country”. “I believe these visits will break psychological barriers,” said Davutoglu.

http://cyprus-mail.com/2014/02/11/ankar ... ternative/

This is what I think.

They think everyone north of the ceasefire line is going to receive a citizenship and Passport from the "Federal" Republic of Cyprus, have a veto against the Greek south and become full members of the European Union in their own right.

[bill cobbett]

Yes, and the Sidelined Eroglu is showing more Intransigence today with a statement disputing that Sovereignty is indivisible.

Here's what the Squirmer had to say...

"... Under the title “This cause belongs to all of us”, Turkish Cypriot daily Bakis newspaper (13.02.14) reports that the Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu has alleged that all “states”, which will be established in Cyprus will be “sovereign” and this could not be expressed as “one and undivided sovereignty”. ..."

The Back-tracker is having trouble understanding this part of the Joint Declaration...

" ... The united Cyprus, as a member of the United Nations and of the European Union, shall have a single, international legal personality and a single sovereignty which is defined as the sovereignty which is enjoyed by all members States of the United Nations, under the UN Charter and which emanates equally from Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots. ..."

[bill cobbett]

Meanwhile, after being reassured by the reports of the experts on constitutional matters that we read about yesterday, the leader of the CY Church, the very influential Archbishop Chrisostomos, has backed Pres A and the Joint Declaration...

http://incyprus.philenews.com/en-gb/Top ... -president

[Pyrpolizer]

Meanwhile, after being reassured by the reports of the experts on constitutional matters that we read about yesterday, the leader of the CY Church, the very influential Archbishop Chrisostomos, has backed Pres A and the Joint Declaration...

http://incyprus.philenews.com/en-gb/Top ... -president

He might be a liar, but not a stupid liar like Omirou, Papadopoulos, Perdikis et al.

In this case Anan-stasiades the tiger is right