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Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:48 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Who knows?
Something fishy goes on for sure.
Turkey's sudden change is unexplainable for the moment.
I actually fear Anastasiades more than the Turks. This guy likes to bring one catastrophe upon another on us.Starting from what he did during the Anan Plan period, to our total bankruptcy seal within 15 days after he took presidency. And then he shows up as if he was our "savior"
Who knows what he promised the Turks?
The whole thing doesn't fit....


Well, fishy...???

Look at things from Erdogans's angle...

In the past couple of weeks he has sought to re-launch Turkey's EU Accession, which must include a normalisation of relations with the Republic and the Republic lifting any restrictions on opening new Chapters.

Over the past year or so we've reported on the demise of the great Turkish economy and the slump in the TL. A resurrection of the EU Accession will bolster the much-needed foreign investment in the Turkish economy.

In the wake of Gezi and the Corruption Scandal and Davutoglu's failures in Libya, Egypt and Syria, he's also probably keen to find a foreign policy success to detract from these before the round of elections coming up in Turkey, including the presidential election that he's so keen to win.

If we go along with these the Republic holds the key to these ambitions.

The Republic may never nave been in a stronger position. Hopefully Pres A is astute enough to recognise this.
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby Demonax » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:34 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:Who knows?
Something fishy goes on for sure.
Turkey's sudden change is unexplainable for the moment...l
Who knows what he promised the Turks?
The whole thing doesn't fit....


Probably a combination of things falling into place. Turkey needs to get its EU accession back on track (if only for foreign investors) as its economy is on the slide. And it wants a gas deal with Israel which is impossible as long as it occupies Cyprus. By withdrawing from Cyprus it solves both problems at once.

We always said that Turkey would put its own interests first and that it would get out if Cyprus when it was in its interest to do so. Realism would triumph over nationalist rhetoric. It remains to be seen if that's actually the case...
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby Jerry » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:31 pm

Not fishy but naval. The Russians must be worried about the effect regime change in Syria would have on its naval base there so it's been sniffing around Cyprus. This is the last thing the Yanks and Israelis want, I expect the recent US warship visit was a gesture to show how nice American ships and personnel are. No doubt, pending a settlement, the US will offer the new State membership of NATO in exchange for keeping the Russians out.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013 ... -in-Cyprus
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby B25 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:43 pm

Here we go again, it was exactly this scenario in the past that got us where we are today.
God damn it!
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:09 pm

gectikale airport in the north is a nato air base. what else do they need.
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby Demonax » Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:55 pm

Lordo wrote:gectikale airport in the north is a nato air base. what else do they need.


Go back to bed, Lordo. International politics is clearly hurting your brain. :roll:
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby Jerry » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:15 pm

Lordo wrote:gectikale airport in the north is a nato air base. what else do they need.


Can they park ships there? :D
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:55 pm

B25 wrote:Here we go again, it was exactly this scenario in the past that got us where we are today.
God damn it!


File, to be pragmatic and within the bounds of the Joint Declaration and now that the issue of outdated Guarantees has been abandoned, the challenge now is to impress on Pres A the need to max out a couple of terribly important issues...

To maximise the Territory/Property that will come under the Republic, so that a majority of refugees are able to return under admins of their choice.

To maximise the power of the central federal government. That will go a long way towards a truly united CY and not just an assemblance of zones.

(It would also be nice to see the most solid guarantee of the settlement built in to the Geography of the zones, that's to say a multi-zonal arrangement.)
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:07 pm

are you all competing to win the arshole of the year award. given the choise of airbase and a port you chose a port. what hopless arsholes you are.
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Re: Another shortsighted Turkish plot destined to backfire…

Postby Jerry » Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:18 pm

Lordo wrote:are you all competing to win the arshole of the year award. given the choise of airbase and a port you chose a port. what hopless arsholes you are.


Lordo, both the US and Russia like to cruise the Med in their big boom-boom boats, if they want some petrol or mendy mendy broken boat they can't fix it at airbase. Besides Yankee men can use Limey airbase at Akrotiri, why need two on Cyprus?
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