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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby kurupetos » Wed May 07, 2014 3:45 pm

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bill cobbett wrote:For greek and turkish speakers, a vid published today of Sener Levent urging CYs not to vote the usual kommata ways, for the parties that have brought such misery on CYs ...

I agree. We must vote ELAM. :D


What, you and their 2 other supporters?

No, everyone can. Even you. :D
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby CBBB » Wed May 07, 2014 4:05 pm

kurupetos wrote:
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kurupetos wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:For greek and turkish speakers, a vid published today of Sener Levent urging CYs not to vote the usual kommata ways, for the parties that have brought such misery on CYs ...

I agree. We must vote ELAM. :D


What, you and their 2 other supporters?

No, everyone can. Even you. :D


Seeing as I would chop my arm off before voting for them, I wouldn't be able to tick the box.
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby kurupetos » Thu May 08, 2014 1:41 pm

CBBB wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
CBBB wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:For greek and turkish speakers, a vid published today of Sener Levent urging CYs not to vote the usual kommata ways, for the parties that have brought such misery on CYs ...

I agree. We must vote ELAM. :D


What, you and their 2 other supporters?

No, everyone can. Even you. :D


Seeing as I would chop my arm off before voting for them, I wouldn't be able to tick the box.

OK... I reckon you will vote for Animal Party Cyprus, along with the other beasts... :lol:

http://www.animalpartycyprus.org/
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby ayyannili » Thu May 08, 2014 9:03 pm

If anyone is willing to translate the Turkish, there are a bunch of interviews with him on Afrika's front page

http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/

10 years ago, he was branded a traitor by the state and his Avrupa newspaper was shut down on trumped up charges. I'm amazed and glad that the mainstream Turkish Cypriot media is giving him a voice.

Here's another video where he explains why he reopened his newspaper as "Afrika"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0lh4fHc2js
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu May 08, 2014 11:47 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:I don't object to Sener Levent ... in a free and equal Cyprus.

But I object to the principal of inclusion of the TCs and Turkish Settlers (because let's face it, he will give them a voice too) into EU matters whilst the Turkish occupation continues and whilst TCs and their Settler friends live comfortably and in total disregard of the criminality of their daily actions or inactions against the native Greek Cypriots.

Under these conditions, a vote for a TC will give a voice to Turkish Settlers and acceptance of the current situation. No one who wants to see the end of Turkish occupation should either stand or vote.
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu May 08, 2014 11:51 pm

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GreekIslandGirl wrote:I don't object to Sener Levent ... in a free and equal Cyprus.

But I object to the principal of inclusion of the TCs and Turkish Settlers (because let's face it, he will give them a voice too) into EU matters whilst the Turkish occupation continues and whilst TCs and their Settler friends live comfortably and in total disregard of the criminality of their daily actions or inactions against the native Greek Cypriots.

Under these conditions, a vote for a TC will give a voice to Turkish Settlers and acceptance of the current situation. No one who wants to see the end of Turkish occupation should either stand or vote.


how will a vote for tc's give a voice to turk settlers? who will vote in these tcs? only gc tc or both?
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri May 09, 2014 12:34 am

...voting Sener Levent, is a voice against the regime of occupation. he believes in one, Cyprus. any man who has that courage deserves respect from any one of us who say, we love Cyprus, first. in any case a MEP representive is there to return with better ideas, i trust Sener Levent more than most to open the debate, for Universal Principals, regardless. and as a representative of Cypriotness, per se, he,as a European, does give Hope, making a strong contrast to the "Turks" who will claim he is not "Turkish" enough. he is a candidate which any Cypriot can vote for (how many candidates can say that?), i hope Cypriots, as voters, feel strongly enough to get out and vote, for him.
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby Oceanside50 » Fri May 09, 2014 1:00 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...voting Sener Levent, is a voice against the regime of occupation. he believes in one, Cyprus. any man who has that courage deserves respect from any one of us who say, we love Cyprus, first. in any case a MEP representive is there to return with better ideas, i trust Sener Levent more than most to open the debate, for Universal Principals, regardless. and as a representative of Cypriotness, per se, he,as a European, does give Hope, making a strong contrast to the "Turks" who will claim he is not "Turkish" enough. he is a candidate which any Cypriot can vote for (how many candidates can say that?), i hope Cypriots, as voters, feel strongly enough to get out and vote, for him.


Cypriots should make it their duty to get this man elected to this Euro parliament. Perceptions in politics are everything, and having a TCypriot in Europe giving speeches against Turkey's illegal occupation will go a long way in exposing even further Turkey's long time b#$llsh!!t....and I'll go a step further, no GC candidate on the Euro ballots,from all RoC parties can have an impact as much as Mr Levent....and I'll go a step further then the one before...if he isn't elected it only means the Gc population is satisfied with the status quo and indifferent to the message it sends to Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots...
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Fri May 09, 2014 8:42 am

Oceanside50 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I don't object to Sener Levent ... in a free and equal Cyprus.

But I object to the principal of inclusion of the TCs and Turkish Settlers (because let's face it, he will give them a voice too) into EU matters whilst the Turkish occupation continues and whilst TCs and their Settler friends live comfortably and in total disregard of the criminality of their daily actions or inactions against the native Greek Cypriots.

Under these conditions, a vote for a TC will give a voice to Turkish Settlers and acceptance of the current situation. No one who wants to see the end of Turkish occupation should either stand or vote.


how will a vote for tc's give a voice to turk settlers? who will vote in these tcs? only gc tc or both?


The settlers will use any TC representatives as much as the TCs would - there will be no discrimiantion there. He is not standing exclusively for TCs or GCs is he? He is standing for "all Cypriots" and at the moment, we have been told all the Settlers are now "Cypriots" with "citizenship" etc. They may not be given the vote to elect, but once any TC MEP is in, they will not turn away any settlers claiming to be "Cypriot" and needing his help as EU representative.

Secondly, it sets a precedent for continuing with the status quo of Turkish occupation. There should be no voice for those under Turkish occupation which acts to compromise freedom for the whole island.

What is more, the TCs already have a lot of British MEPs supporting them (Hence why Bill cobbett has been corrupted). The message these British MEPs send out when they speak for TCs is that they want the division to continue, but the TCs want to be represented in the EU, on top. This is exactly what a TC MEP will have achieved!. Have a look at some of the things Graham Watson MEP has said for TCs. He calls them "Northern Cypriots, for goodness sake.
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby Paphitis » Fri May 09, 2014 9:25 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I don't object to Sener Levent ... in a free and equal Cyprus.

But I object to the principal of inclusion of the TCs and Turkish Settlers (because let's face it, he will give them a voice too) into EU matters whilst the Turkish occupation continues and whilst TCs and their Settler friends live comfortably and in total disregard of the criminality of their daily actions or inactions against the native Greek Cypriots.

Under these conditions, a vote for a TC will give a voice to Turkish Settlers and acceptance of the current situation. No one who wants to see the end of Turkish occupation should either stand or vote.


how will a vote for tc's give a voice to turk settlers? who will vote in these tcs? only gc tc or both?


The settlers will use any TC representatives as much as the TCs would - there will be no discrimiantion there. He is not standing exclusively for TCs or GCs is he? He is standing for "all Cypriots" and at the moment, we have been told all the Settlers are now "Cypriots" with "citizenship" etc. They may not be given the vote to elect, but once any TC MEP is in, they will not turn away any settlers claiming to be "Cypriot" and needing his help as EU representative.

Secondly, it sets a precedent for continuing with the status quo of Turkish occupation. There should be no voice for those under Turkish occupation which acts to compromise freedom for the whole island.

What is more, the TCs already have a lot of British MEPs supporting them (Hence why Bill cobbett has been corrupted). The message these British MEPs send out when they speak for TCs is that they want the division to continue, but the TCs want to be represented in the EU, on top. This is exactly what a TC MEP will have achieved!. Have a look at some of the things Graham Watson MEP has said for TCs. He calls them "Northern Cypriots, for goodness sake.


It would be a major victory should Sener Levent be elected. A propaganda defeat against Turkey by the RoC. Sener, in my opinion, is gambling with his life. Turkey wants him out of the way.

Let's see if the GCs can recognize a major Coup before it hits them in the face. Fact is, the TCs have a right to vote. All they need is to possess RoC citizenship. Settlers do not possess RoC citizenship and can't vote.

Furthermore, it is the EU that provides the TCs with their EU suffrage. This has nothing to do with the RoC.
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