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[Lordo]

no rw they did not vote because they have less faith in the roc then they do the terks. now that is a very sad state of affairs.

can you imagine a democratic country recognised around the world that blocked 40,000 of of 95,000 people from voting. it is beyond imagination to be so incompetent. it was not incompetence, it was deliberate rejection. the dream died some time ago but yesterday was funeral.

[repulsewarrior]

no rw they did not vote because they have less faith in the roc then they do the terks. now that is a very sad state of affairs.

can you imagine a democratic country recognised around the world that blocked 40,000 of of 95,000 people from voting. it is beyond imagination to be so incompetent. it was not incompetence, it was deliberate rejection. the dream died some time ago but yesterday was funeral.

Canada, Canada has a Prime Minister who is willing to change the Elections Act to do just that. You exaggerate the facts, as usual Lordo. and as I mentioned in another topic, how many Cypriots lost their vote for the same reason, never mind, just the demographic identified as Turcophone?

...it is incompetence, it is not a conspiracy Lordo. in both cases such acts are opposed, and in effect, what ignorance, decisions were based on was exposed; this too is Democracy.

...did you vote, Lordo?

[Lordo]

no rw i did not vote. nor did many of my friends all pro peace. my objection was conditional democracy. i can vote but i have to go south to do it. i am afraid it is just not good enough. over 90,000 people have shown you their view. you choose to ignore it at your peril my swinish friends.

usual exclusions.

[kurupetos]

...sadly, I think so few Cypriots Turcophone voted because they are (or feel) beaten, powerless, and willing to accept, any, solution which changes the misery of their lives. the regime in the north has nothing to be proud about, they may claim that their electors did not present themselves to vote because they were told not to, it is a delusion, and this conclusion, indicates the self-serving nature of this Leadership, as though Cyprus does not exist, never existed as a People, only "Turks", and their mortal enemy, "not Turk".

...more flags, Cypriot will fly in the north, lol, if kurupetos makes sense some way, Cypriots (given the results) are the "Turk's" ELAM.

If TCs want to get rid of the Turkish yoke in the occupied areas, they should vote for ELAM, which is the only party that accepts a unitary state, where TCs will be a recognized minority.

[Tim Drayton]

...sadly, I think so few Cypriots Turcophone voted because they are (or feel) beaten, powerless, and willing to accept, any, solution which changes the misery of their lives. the regime in the north has nothing to be proud about, they may claim that their electors did not present themselves to vote because they were told not to, it is a delusion, and this conclusion, indicates the self-serving nature of this Leadership, as though Cyprus does not exist, never existed as a People, only "Turks", and their mortal enemy, "not Turk".

...more flags, Cypriot will fly in the north, lol, if kurupetos makes sense some way, Cypriots (given the results) are the "Turk's" ELAM.

I think the prevailing view of mainstream Turkish Cypriot politicians is that, in the first place, there can be no piecemeal steps towards a solution and matters such as Turkish Cypriot participation in EU elections can only be resolved within a comprehensive solution. Apart from that, they argue that the current voting arrangements do not accord with a federal solution and what should happen is for two seats to be reserved for Turkish Cypriots, with separate elections held in which only Turkish Cypriots vote. They also argued that such elections, if they were to be held now, should be held in the north with all TRNC citizens able to vote. I think it was clear, with all of the main Turkish Cypriot parties opposed to these elections, that few Turkish Cypriots would vote.

People such as Eroğlu are already arguing that the Greek Cypriot regime has usurped the two Turkish Cypriot seats in the European Parliament. I also expect to see challenges by Turkish Cypriots who allege that they were disenfranchised in these elections and, if they exhaust all domestic remedies without satisfaction, they will probably go to the European Court of Human Rights.

[Maximus]

...sadly, I think so few Cypriots Turcophone voted because they are (or feel) beaten, powerless, and willing to accept, any, solution which changes the misery of their lives. the regime in the north has nothing to be proud about, they may claim that their electors did not present themselves to vote because they were told not to, it is a delusion, and this conclusion, indicates the self-serving nature of this Leadership, as though Cyprus does not exist, never existed as a People, only "Turks", and their mortal enemy, "not Turk".

...more flags, Cypriot will fly in the north, lol, if kurupetos makes sense some way, Cypriots (given the results) are the "Turk's" ELAM.

I think the prevailing view of mainstream Turkish Cypriot politicians is that, in the first place, there can be no piecemeal steps towards a solution and matters such as Turkish Cypriot participation in EU elections can only be resolved within a comprehensive solution. Apart from that, they argue that the current voting arrangements do not accord with a federal solution and what should happen is for two seats to be reserved for Turkish Cypriots, with separate elections held in which only Turkish Cypriots vote. They also argued that such elections, if they were to be held now, should be held in the north with all TRNC citizens able to vote. I think it was clear, with all of the main Turkish Cypriot parties opposed to these elections, that few Turkish Cypriots would vote.

People such as Eroğlu are already arguing that the Greek Cypriot regime has usurped the two Turkish Cypriot seats in the European Parliament. I also expect to see challenges by Turkish Cypriots who allege that they were disenfranchised in these elections and, if they exhaust all domestic remedies without satisfaction, they will probably go to the European Court of Human Rights.

Why should two of the six seats in the European parliament be reserved for TC's? Why separate voting just for them and the illegals too?

They are a complete sham and should remain excluded for lack of qualification.

[Lordo]

you want it all you swine then you take your bit and go to hell. we have done alright so far and we will do better in the future

especially now that the water is coming. wooooossssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Nikitas]

The water will make you more, not less dependent on mother Turkey. After all these years you still cannot see that the TC problem is that they need to claim their freedom from ALL outsiders. The GCs matured politically post 1974 and became free of Greece, now it is your turn, though something tells me it is not likely to happen soon.

Re the water, it always reminds me of the anecdote of the old Greek American whom his fellow villagers see as a golden goose to be milked for his money. So they give him an active young bride, Mario, to hasten his demise. His will reads:

To God I leave my soul
To Mario I leave my pole
And to the village I leave my balls
To help them with the water falls

Be careful you do not end up like the villagers.

Water versus gas, it will be an interesting contest between two of the primal elements. Earth and fire are the other two we tried in the past without much success.

And now to the elections. How many TCs voted? How many attempted to vote and were refused? How many votes was the final count for Levent? Was his count all TC, if not, how many GCs voted for him?

[kurupetos]

you want it all you swine then you take your bit and go to hell. we have done alright so far and we will do better in the future

especially now that the water is coming. wooooossssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Time to have a bath.

[Tim Drayton]

The water will make you more, not less dependent on mother Turkey. After all these years you still cannot see that the TC problem is that they need to claim their freedom from ALL outsiders. The GCs matured politically post 1974 and became free of Greece, now it is your turn, though something tells me it is not likely to happen soon.

Re the water, it always reminds me of the anecdote of the old Greek American whom his fellow villagers see as a golden goose to be milked for his money. So they give him an active young bride, Mario, to hasten his demise. His will reads:

To God I leave my soul
To Mario I leave my pole
And to the village I leave my balls
To help them with the water falls

Be careful you do not end up like the villagers.

Water versus gas, it will be an interesting contest between two of the primal elements. Earth and fire are the other two we tried in the past without much success.

And now to the elections. How many TCs voted? How many attempted to vote and were refused? How many votes was the final count for Levent? Was his count all TC, if not, how many GCs voted for him?

The number of Turkish Cypriots who voted was 1,869. If we accept journalist Sami Özuslu's estimate based a small eyewitness sample that half of the Turkish Cypriots who attempted to vote were unable to do so, that would make for 1,869 lost votes. That is not a large enough number to have materially affected the outcome of the election. However, the fact that these people were unable to vote has allowed partitionist politicians like Eroğlu to create a different narrative whereby the Turkish Cypriots have been usurped of their seats in the European Parliament.