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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby halil » Fri May 16, 2014 10:50 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Dear dthkie Bill, why do you think I should vote for Şener Levent rather than 'Action' (ΔΡΑΣΙ/EYLEM)? The latter appeal to me as the only platform fielding candidates from both communities.


Here is the complain shared by Deniz today on facebook.................

Gia to onoma tou Theou!!!!! My dear Karekla and dear PIK, who are you kidding?!!!... You are bothering to do a whole programme to announce the results of a totally psefto-public opinion poll?!! Are you kidding us?! Where are the Turkish Cypriot candidates, where is Drasy-Eylem?! And with all due respect, you cannot claim your psefto public opinion poll to be "pankypria". Who have you spoken to in Kyrenia? In Morphou? In Elya? In Dereboyu?!... You are just a joke. Don't even bother to watch them people. I personally turned off PIK. Have more important and serious things to do.............
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby halil » Fri May 16, 2014 10:57 am

halil wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Dear dthkie Bill, why do you think I should vote for Şener Levent rather than 'Action' (ΔΡΑΣΙ/EYLEM)? The latter appeal to me as the only platform fielding candidates from both communities.


Here is the complain shared by Deniz today on facebook.................

Gia to onoma tou Theou!!!!! My dear Karekla and dear PIK, who are you kidding?!!!... You are bothering to do a whole programme to announce the results of a totally psefto-public opinion poll?!! Are you kidding us?! Where are the Turkish Cypriot candidates, where is Drasy-Eylem?! And with all due respect, you cannot claim your psefto public opinion poll to be "pankypria". Who have you spoken to in Kyrenia? In Morphou? In Elya? In Dereboyu?!... You are just a joke. Don't even bother to watch them people. I personally turned off PIK. Have more important and serious things to do.............


Tim here is the her facebook account.https://www.facebook.com/dbirinci?fref=ts
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby Maximus » Fri May 16, 2014 11:38 am

halil wrote:
halil wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Dear dthkie Bill, why do you think I should vote for Şener Levent rather than 'Action' (ΔΡΑΣΙ/EYLEM)? The latter appeal to me as the only platform fielding candidates from both communities.


Here is the complain shared by Deniz today on facebook.................

Gia to onoma tou Theou!!!!! My dear Karekla and dear PIK, who are you kidding?!!!... You are bothering to do a whole programme to announce the results of a totally psefto-public opinion poll?!! Are you kidding us?! Where are the Turkish Cypriot candidates, where is Drasy-Eylem?! And with all due respect, you cannot claim your psefto public opinion poll to be "pankypria". Who have you spoken to in Kyrenia? In Morphou? In Elya? In Dereboyu?!... You are just a joke. Don't even bother to watch them people. I personally turned off PIK. Have more important and serious things to do.............


Tim here is the her facebook account.https://www.facebook.com/dbirinci?fref=ts


Do you have their manifesto Halil?

What are you voting for?
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri May 16, 2014 12:01 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Dear dthkie Bill, why do you think I should vote for Şener Levent rather than 'Action' (ΔΡΑΣΙ/EYLEM)? The latter appeal to me as the only platform fielding candidates from both communities.


Does anyone have their (action) manifesto?


No, but in the interview they struck me as being left wingers who are in touch with contemporary ideas.


A friend of mine, who I consider left wing went to their election rally in Nicosia the other day. he is quite active in the political scene.

He asked a few questions about how they are going to achieve the things they were talking about but their answers were poor. He called them a bunch of 'hippies' living on the fringes of reality.


Thanks for that feedback. I will bear all these things in mind as I make my decision, although I found them to be quite articulate in their TV interview.
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby kurupetos » Fri May 16, 2014 1:48 pm

Maximus wrote:Do you have their manifesto Halil?

What are you voting for?

ELAM :mrgreen:
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby Oceanside50 » Fri May 16, 2014 4:00 pm

Maximus wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Lordo wrote:tim i think you mean ctp bot chp. now when it comes to gcs and their stupidity they can do no right. what ever they agree in favour of of tcs there is always a butt. tcs can vote butt................

well my little swineyard friends grow up you have remained at 3 years old. strangely thats how long roc survived.


Oh Gawd... !!! Someone put the above through Google Translate for us please (and put Sordo through a mincer.)

Speaking of translations, perhaps Maxi and "g"IG, if they're around, could translate this piece of Sener Levent's Manifesto for us please (and give us their views on it please)...

"... Για την ∆ιζωνική

Ο Σενέρ είναι υπέρ της ουσιαστικής συνένωσης των δύο κοινοτήτων και της επιστροφής όλων στα σπίτια τους. "Ονειρεύομαι", γράφει, "μια πατρίδα όπου Τουρκοκύπριοι και Ελληνοκύπριοι να ζουν μαζί και να κουβεντιάζουν στις ίδιες γειτονιές, στις ίδιες βεράντες, στους ίδιους καφενέδες." Λέει επίσης: "∆εν διαχωρίζω Τούρκο και Έλληνα. ...

Η πρώτη μου επιλογή δεν είναι η διζωνική, διαιρεμένη Κύπρος." Εμείς συμφωνούμε: ο ρατσιστικός διαχωρισμός των κοινοτήτων σε δύο ζώνες και με διαφορετικά προνόμια και δικαιώματα εκατέρωθεν με βάση φυλετικά κριτήρια, δηλαδή μια τέτοια εκδοχή ∆ιζωνικής λύσης, αντιβαίνει σε κάθε αντίληψη περί δικαίου. Ο Σενέρ λέει:

"Νοσταλγώ μια δίκαια τάξη πραγμάτων σε αυτό τον κόσμο, όπου δεν θα υπάρχουν καταπιεστές και καταπιεσμένοι. Όποιου δεν αρέσει ας μην με ψηφίσει"! ..."


He is right Bill,

Refugees to their homes, no zones and a democratic unitary state.

This is not dissimilar to what a lot of people have been advocating for a long time. It is right but giving the settlers and the carpetbaggers or those who where born in Cyprus post 1974 Cypriot citizenship is not. This throws a spanner in the works. One child born in Cyprus can quickly turn into five people with 'rights' to stay because you cannot split up a family.

How is he going to achieve all this? Consider, he is completely the opposite of popular amongst the TC and the rest of "TRNC electorate".


More and more babies born , with rights. Don't assume just because the parents are illegal that the babies are too..
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby Maximus » Fri May 16, 2014 4:17 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Maximus wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Lordo wrote:tim i think you mean ctp bot chp. now when it comes to gcs and their stupidity they can do no right. what ever they agree in favour of of tcs there is always a butt. tcs can vote butt................

well my little swineyard friends grow up you have remained at 3 years old. strangely thats how long roc survived.


Oh Gawd... !!! Someone put the above through Google Translate for us please (and put Sordo through a mincer.)

Speaking of translations, perhaps Maxi and "g"IG, if they're around, could translate this piece of Sener Levent's Manifesto for us please (and give us their views on it please)...

"... Για την ∆ιζωνική

Ο Σενέρ είναι υπέρ της ουσιαστικής συνένωσης των δύο κοινοτήτων και της επιστροφής όλων στα σπίτια τους. "Ονειρεύομαι", γράφει, "μια πατρίδα όπου Τουρκοκύπριοι και Ελληνοκύπριοι να ζουν μαζί και να κουβεντιάζουν στις ίδιες γειτονιές, στις ίδιες βεράντες, στους ίδιους καφενέδες." Λέει επίσης: "∆εν διαχωρίζω Τούρκο και Έλληνα. ...

Η πρώτη μου επιλογή δεν είναι η διζωνική, διαιρεμένη Κύπρος." Εμείς συμφωνούμε: ο ρατσιστικός διαχωρισμός των κοινοτήτων σε δύο ζώνες και με διαφορετικά προνόμια και δικαιώματα εκατέρωθεν με βάση φυλετικά κριτήρια, δηλαδή μια τέτοια εκδοχή ∆ιζωνικής λύσης, αντιβαίνει σε κάθε αντίληψη περί δικαίου. Ο Σενέρ λέει:

"Νοσταλγώ μια δίκαια τάξη πραγμάτων σε αυτό τον κόσμο, όπου δεν θα υπάρχουν καταπιεστές και καταπιεσμένοι. Όποιου δεν αρέσει ας μην με ψηφίσει"! ..."


He is right Bill,

Refugees to their homes, no zones and a democratic unitary state.

This is not dissimilar to what a lot of people have been advocating for a long time. It is right but giving the settlers and the carpetbaggers or those who where born in Cyprus post 1974 Cypriot citizenship is not. This throws a spanner in the works. One child born in Cyprus can quickly turn into five people with 'rights' to stay because you cannot split up a family.

How is he going to achieve all this? Consider, he is completely the opposite of popular amongst the TC and the rest of "TRNC electorate".


More and more babies born , with rights. Don't assume just because the parents are illegal that the babies are too..


We have established that the settlers (all of them) are illegal. The occupation and Turkey transferring her population to Cyprus to change the demographics of the island is illegal. Born in Cyprus or otherwise.

Its not more and more babies being born with rights, what I am saying is that one baby born with "rights" could extend to the rest of the family which may include two parents and two or more siblings. what if the parents say that they want to exercise that child's right to stay because Seners says that child has a birth right? You cant split a family up can you? one person turns in to five.
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby kurupetos » Fri May 16, 2014 7:56 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Maximus wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Lordo wrote:tim i think you mean ctp bot chp. now when it comes to gcs and their stupidity they can do no right. what ever they agree in favour of of tcs there is always a butt. tcs can vote butt................

well my little swineyard friends grow up you have remained at 3 years old. strangely thats how long roc survived.


Oh Gawd... !!! Someone put the above through Google Translate for us please (and put Sordo through a mincer.)

Speaking of translations, perhaps Maxi and "g"IG, if they're around, could translate this piece of Sener Levent's Manifesto for us please (and give us their views on it please)...

"... Για την ∆ιζωνική

Ο Σενέρ είναι υπέρ της ουσιαστικής συνένωσης των δύο κοινοτήτων και της επιστροφής όλων στα σπίτια τους. "Ονειρεύομαι", γράφει, "μια πατρίδα όπου Τουρκοκύπριοι και Ελληνοκύπριοι να ζουν μαζί και να κουβεντιάζουν στις ίδιες γειτονιές, στις ίδιες βεράντες, στους ίδιους καφενέδες." Λέει επίσης: "∆εν διαχωρίζω Τούρκο και Έλληνα. ...

Η πρώτη μου επιλογή δεν είναι η διζωνική, διαιρεμένη Κύπρος." Εμείς συμφωνούμε: ο ρατσιστικός διαχωρισμός των κοινοτήτων σε δύο ζώνες και με διαφορετικά προνόμια και δικαιώματα εκατέρωθεν με βάση φυλετικά κριτήρια, δηλαδή μια τέτοια εκδοχή ∆ιζωνικής λύσης, αντιβαίνει σε κάθε αντίληψη περί δικαίου. Ο Σενέρ λέει:

"Νοσταλγώ μια δίκαια τάξη πραγμάτων σε αυτό τον κόσμο, όπου δεν θα υπάρχουν καταπιεστές και καταπιεσμένοι. Όποιου δεν αρέσει ας μην με ψηφίσει"! ..."


He is right Bill,

Refugees to their homes, no zones and a democratic unitary state.

This is not dissimilar to what a lot of people have been advocating for a long time. It is right but giving the settlers and the carpetbaggers or those who where born in Cyprus post 1974 Cypriot citizenship is not. This throws a spanner in the works. One child born in Cyprus can quickly turn into five people with 'rights' to stay because you cannot split up a family.

How is he going to achieve all this? Consider, he is completely the opposite of popular amongst the TC and the rest of "TRNC electorate".


More and more babies born , with rights. Don't assume just because the parents are illegal that the babies are too..

Of course they are illegal, you fool. The Cypriot law regarding citizenship is based on jus sanguinis. :wink:
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby Oceanside50 » Sat May 17, 2014 12:26 am

i want them all gone back to turkey, but unfortunately that may not be the case. The Geneva convention and time passing is on their side.
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Re: Vote for Sener Levent ... !!!

Postby kurupetos » Sat May 17, 2014 1:03 am

Oceanside50 wrote:i want them all gone back to turkey, but unfortunately that may not be the case. The Geneva convention and time passing is on their side.

OK, they can stay under some conditions... No need to go through further details. :mrgreen:
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