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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Maximus » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:17 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:There you go again control freaks if the TCs are part of the now "RoC" then all you have to do is work with them and declare that Ercan can be opened to direct flights, in return you would get the whole of Maraş, sounds like a fair deal to me.


The RoC is trying to move forwards and there you are, like a monkey on their back with your unrecognizable politics trying to extort the most ludicrous of rights from them.

You sound like a mouth piece for a Turkish trade union.


What part of the working with TCs didnt you like?


Your trying to change the subject why do you have a problem working with TCs registered in the "RoC" ?


Those of them that want to work with GC's do. Also, many of them cross the ceasefire line daily to work for GCs.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:00 pm

Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:There you go again control freaks if the TCs are part of the now "RoC" then all you have to do is work with them and declare that Ercan can be opened to direct flights, in return you would get the whole of Maraş, sounds like a fair deal to me.


The RoC is trying to move forwards and there you are, like a monkey on their back with your unrecognizable politics trying to extort the most ludicrous of rights from them.

You sound like a mouth piece for a Turkish trade union.


What part of the working with TCs didnt you like?


Your trying to change the subject why do you have a problem working with TCs registered in the "RoC" ?


Those of them that want to work with GC's do. Also, many of them cross the ceasefire line daily to work for GCs.


This statement speaks volumes to those intelligent enough to see how GCs view TCs. Thank you.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Maximus » Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:16 pm

What are you thanking me for?

Straighten yourself up.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby B25 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:59 pm

@Pyro

Here is another analysis of the agreement as seen by N. Papadopoulos. What do you think??

http://www.newsit.com.cy/flash/epistolinikola.pdf

It is in Greek.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:42 pm

I am pretty tired today my friend. Couldn't read more than half of it. The man (Papadopoulos) is trying to hang on everything he could even words like a simple "and" even from tenses that in most Languages have broad time meaning, to make some mostly legalistic points.
One thing you should ask yourself is why is he doing that? Is it because he doesn't want a solution? Is it because the only solution he would accept would be the return of the return to the status of before 1974?
In my opinion none of these. He simply believes there is not going to be a solution no matter what, hence why not capitalize from now on political gains?
The same silly attitude was followed by Desy when Christofias was President. Not only on CYprob but on matters concerning the economy as well. They have not allowed not even one of the chances we had for foreign investments to flourish!! Remember the matter with the Chinese, the other matter with the investment from Qatar?
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:11 pm

Viewpoint wrote:There you go again control freaks if the TCs are part of the now "RoC" then all you have to do is work with them and declare that Ercan can be opened to direct flights, in return you would get the whole of Maraş, sounds like a fair deal to me.


The Ercan Airport does not serve Tcs alone. It serves settlers, Turkish military men, carpetbaggers etc.The RoC has absolutely no control on that airport, however your pseudo has. You don't want the RoC to have any control over it and you even call it and us "control freaks" while at the same time you don't mind any control from the pseudo. But you would of course get thrilled if the RoC would declare it one of it's legal Airports, without in reality having any ability to apply any legal measures over it. Isn't that so VP?

If you are really one of those TCS that the RoC should work with to turn Ercan to a legal Airport, why don't you form a group with others and go talk things out at the Ministry of Transport? That assumes that they would really consider you their own RoC citizens and you consider them your own authority.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Mustiejodu » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:40 am

The only time the GC s would be happy if there were no TC s existing . That was their goal pre 74 . Let's stop all this pointless bull shit talk . They hate us . They conceal their hatred in all the inflexibility to agree to anything or create obstacles . You have to just read through the lines when they chat all the jargon they splatter out of their mouths . It's a proven fact that money does make the world go around .the TC s go over and work for the GC s and there is no problem ,they get on . Houses are being built good great . The point here is this is proof that people can work together out of economic viability so if this marash and ercan business is sorted out it would work as long as no politics is involved . We know it works because it already does at a smaller scale . Let's preach what we have already practiced and ignore the bull shit jargon that is really a cover for racism .
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Mustiejodu » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:56 am

Viewpoint . We need more people like you that are sensible . They can't bare to be confronted in the way your confronting them thats why they are reacting this way . Just watch as soon as I post this I guarantee you they will respond in a dismissive way or in a way they don't understand . The responses I have seen majority are of arrogance ,refusal to see or acknowledge anything that counters their world of the ego I am the best mentality . They really remind me of the Hasidic Jews at Stamford hill with the black outfits they wear . The comparison is that they don't allow anyone in their community and see others lower than their cast . Watch the obvious response I get . Please prove me wrong so that I know there is light at the end of the tunnel ?
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:41 am

I really dont believe the GCs are acting in goodfaith because what I actually said was we work together to allow direct flights to Ercan and you automatically get the standard answers legality we control we have the right bullshit we have been hearing for years, isnt it time to get passed all that and produce solutions not excuses? Look at Maxis answers they do not see us as equals but as workers for them with this mentality how on earth will the accept we have our own state in the north? if the solution that has been proposed in the next round of talks is put to a referendum do they realize that Ercan will be open to international traffic and that people form both states will be able to use it? All I was suggesting was that we work together in goodfaith to bring about positivity by making Ercan work in exchange for a bigger economical prize Maraş. Have these people really changed? an they see the bigger picture? and that the gas find and changed the game?
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Maximus » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:06 am

I was speaking to my cousins husband yesterday night. He is a TC.

He doesn't believe in the "TRNC" and wants the lying manipulative and oppressive "Turks" to just end the occupation and leave.
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