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[Viewpoint]

It was an invasion, of course it was and Turkey created a pretext for it. TC = Turkish Pawns

So Turkey arranged enosis, the Greek Coup and your stupidity....tall order.

[Maximus]

It was an invasion, of course it was and Turkey created a pretext for it. TC = Turkish Pawns

So Turkey arranged enosis, the Greek Coup and your stupidity....tall order.

No, Turkey did not arrange enosis or the Greek coup and these are not good enough reasons or excuses for what Turkey did.

[Lordo]

will one of you swine please tell me why there was a coup. what was it that makarios did not do that he was repalaced with sampson for. what exactly was sampson specialty.

you bunch of bankers aint got a clue.

[miltiades]

will one of you swine please tell me why there was a coup. what was it that makarios did not do that he was repalaced with sampson for. what exactly was sampson specialty.

you bunch of bankers aint got a clue.

Do you eat bacon Lordo ?

[Lordo]

whats bacon got to do with bankers. i dont like it or pork but thats becasue i have tried it. too salty and pork is too bitter for liking. give me poached egg on toast any time and good old lamb or goat glefdigo. now thats what you call food.

i still have got an answer as to the reason for the coup. if it was no different to makarios policies why have it.

[kurupetos]

whats bacon got to do with bankers. i dont like it or pork but thats becasue i have tried it. too salty and pork is too bitter for liking. give me poached egg on toast any time and good old lamb or goat glefdigo. now thats what you call food.

i still have got an answer as to the reason for the coup. if it was no different to makarios policies why have it.

Your eggs are ready. Enjoy!

[ayyannili]

Invasion is when one country invades another without cause. germany invaded russia and poland and france and greece and every other european country.

when it comes to terkey, she had every right to land and save the tcs under the guaranty powers given to her by the 60 agreement.

having seen what the serbs did to the bosnians if you still think that tcs were not in any danger, you are beyond stupidity.

if you want to see who drove coach and horses through the constitution by all means read real history otherwise just furk off.

the first moment the constitution was dead was arming the gc police in 63 without a single shot being fired. read all you like and take your time before you make assholes of yourselves.

50 thousand peoples lives were threatened and you are talking definitions. god help us that we wish to share our country with assholes like you lot.

So here's where Turkey's official logic fails:

The Treaty of Guarantee says that Turkey, Greece, and Britain have the right to unilaterally intervene in Cyprus ONLY to restore the 1960 agreements (remember, Turkey is still a guarantor of the Republic of Cyprus). There were two operations, the first one was a legal intervention in July which the world supported and toppled Sampson's government. The second happened in August after the Makarios government was restored, and thus, was an invasion and was illegal since it did not restore the 1960 agreements, thus violating the Treaty of Guarantee

Although it is technically true that the constitution in Cyprus has been dead since 1963 (the laws allowing the government to work without the TCs were passed after the TCs withdrew), Turkey uses this same document to justify its actions.

[Pyrpolizer]

INVASION:
As per thesaurus:
Aggression - Assault-Infiltration-Onslaught- Raid- Violation-Trespass-Forced entrance-Usurpation

Did Turkey in 1974 carried out any of the above. If she did clearly it was an invasion.

INTERVENTION:
As per thesaurus:
Mediation- Arbitration- Interruption-Intercession- Interference

If Turkey by her 1974 act was merely mediating, or arbitrating then how is it that thousands died, thousands expelled and hundreds missing.

Some ... Intervention.
One has to be totally stupid to accept Turkeys interpretation of events.
Well, Lordo does !!

Whether we (kypreoi) like it or not, it started as an intervention and then evolved into a full scale invasion as the Kibrisli expat from Ay Yianni explained above. Whether Turkey's intention was all along to invade and take a part of Cyprus for herself is another story.
The fact is
a)We never managed to prove it was an invasion. There is not even one UN document calling it "invasion".
b)Technically/legally speaking there is not even ONE refugee in Cyprus.All there is is DISPLACED persons. This is the terminology used in all UN documents, including of course the Anan Plan, and I guarantee you this term is going to be used in any possible future settlement of the CyProb.

[Lordo]

i am still waiting for somebody to explain to me the reason for the coup. what was it that they were going to do that makarios had not done. makarios was not exactly friend of the tcs was he.

or was it for nothing.

[Pyrpolizer]

i am still waiting for somebody to explain to me the reason for the coup. what was it that they were going to do that makarios had not done. makarios was not exactly friend of the tcs was he.

or was it for nothing.

You said it yourself in the past lordo, and that was perhaps one of the few times i ever agreed with you.
The purpose of the coup was to trigger the invasion for the eventual result of double Enosis. The whole thing was pre-agreed between a)the Greek Junta b) the CIA (which at those times was a state within a state in Greece) and c)Turkey. Everything was agreed in advance. The first thing that went wrong was that Turkey did not abide to the agreement and it took more lands than what was agreed. Then other things in this stupid plan went wrong and here we are to what we are today.

Although to be fair with you you explained it somewhat differently i think you said "to split the island in two parts both of which parts would be under Natos control". Makarios at those times was regarded by the Americans as the Fidel Castro of Mediterranean...