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by **Flying Horse** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:06 pm

A recently published film ''We never said goodbye to you Varosha'' has been released on Youtube.

Real people, real feelings. Cypriots, both Greek and Turkish.

Spoken in English and Turkish with subtitles for each. Each speaking the same thing ''UNITE''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_dB6FKDdI

by **Paphitis** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:41 pm

Thanks Flying Horse.

Varosha is a symbol of Europe's shame!

by **Flying Horse** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:49 pm

Shame on the lack of intelligent politicians to deal with this as people. Shame on them all.

by **GreekIslandGirl** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:16 pm

Flying Horse wrote:Shame on the lack of intelligent politicians to deal with this as people. Shame on them all.

Hi FH

The shame lies squarely with the TCs because they had their eyes on Varosha since before semi-independence. Turkey tried to get as much for them as she could (in 1974, having failed in 1964) and so the shame is with Turkey also - a country which still pretends to be modern, democratic and aiming for EU membership.

by **Flying Horse** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:56 pm

What did you think of the film GiG?

by **B25** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:20 am

I switched off in the first few seconds when they referred to the brutal invasion as an 'intervention', I knew then that the film was going to be another Turk propaganda film.

by **Flying Horse** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:41 am

I must have missed that.

How many 'Turk' propaganda films have Greek and Turkish Cypriots demanding Varosha is given back to its rightful owners.
I know it is a long film, but I wasn't convinced it was written purely for Turk entertainment.

An open mind is a very great thing.

by **GreekIslandGirl** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:01 pm

Flying Horse wrote:What did you think of the film GiG?

I flicked through it as I cannot spare that length of time for something so familiar. Doublespeak.

The taking, occupation and militarisation by Turkey of Varosha/Famagusta is loaded with even more layers of politics. It's great that you are delving into all this, seriously, FH.

Obviously, all the GCs want to have Varosha/Famagusta returned so that they can go home. But so do the rest of the refugees and we cannot forget Kyrenia etc. Maybe some TCs would like to capitalise on Varosha's famous tourist attraction past and return to trading too.

But it cannot be returned in isolation when that act would be in order to seal the rest of the occupied north as a turkish province - and that's why every so often Varosha is brought up again as some iconic place that has to be given back. For sure, give it back to the RoC - but give back the WHOLE of the island to the RoC.

by **Flying Horse** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:26 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Flying Horse wrote:What did you think of the film GiG?

I flicked through it as I cannot spare that length of time for something so familiar. Doublespeak.

The taking, occupation and militarisation by Turkey of Varosha/Famagusta is loaded with even more layers of politics. It's great that you are delving into all this, seriously, FH.

Obviously, all the GCs want to have Varosha/Famagusta returned so that they can go home. But so do the rest of the refugees and we cannot forget Kyrenia etc. Maybe some TCs would like to capitalise on Varosha's famous tourist attraction past and return to trading too.

But it cannot be returned in isolation when that act would be in order to seal the rest of the occupied north as a turkish province - and that's why every so often Varosha is brought up again as some iconic place that has to be given back. For sure, give it back to the RoC - but give back the WHOLE of the island to the RoC.

For the purpose of Varosha, tTurkish Cypriot man said this.
"I am 45 years old, my childhood was spent in varosha with my family. I had a wonderful childhood. I have a three year old who does not have such a childhood. I want my child to have what I had. Why do the Turkish army build hotels and housing for their holidays directly opposite this place? It is wrong"

It is only the same as what the GC people were saying too.

EVERY person of Cyprus deserves the right to freely move anywhere on the island. Every person deserves to live in the home of their choice. Every person deserves better than some tourist who can buy a house anywhere that they choose.

Of course, it is wrong Varosha should be used as a bargaining chip. Morphou should be returned, just the same as Kyrenia.
As long as people take 'sides' this will drag on and on.
Like the Greek lady said
"We lived side by side for 500 years, its only the last 50 there has been all this trouble".
"I want to live in my house and not worry there is a Turkish soldier with a gun watching me, just the same as I don't want a Greek soldier with a gun watching me"

Yes, I see things through new naive eyes. Sometimes its better that way.

by **kurupetos** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:07 pm

Flying Horse wrote:I must have missed that.

How many 'Turk' propaganda films have Greek and Turkish Cypriots demanding Varosha is given back to its rightful owners.
I know it is a long film, but I wasn't convinced it was written purely for Turk entertainment.

An open mind is a very great thing.

I agree with B25... this is just cheap Turkish propaganda.

When a similar documentary is made for Kyrenia, let us know... :wink: