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[Eric dayi]

zan,

I see that you have found the "Main_Source" of idiotology.

[RAFAELLA]

Settlers are not killing the TC identity, in fact they are contributing to it. There are many bulgarian turk settlers in Cyprus who are proud to call themselves bulgarian turkish cypriot.

Hold on a second! How come a Bulgarian Turk settler, a SETTLER, can call himself bulgarian turkish Cypriot??? LOL You say "settler", you admit it and then you say they are proud to be called Tcs??? LOL This is an insult not to our IQ but to yours as well BG... and to yours as well!
….and I was living in my fiancée’s country, Italy, does this make me an Italian-Greek-Cypriot? LOL

Sometimes it’s good for you to know a subject before you analyze it.
It seems that you don’t have a clue about Cuco’s report on illegal Turkish colonization of the occupied area, do you? ….that explains everything.
Part of this report says:
-The vast majority of the settlers were peasants and shepherds from Anatolia who moved into villages that had been abandoned by Greek Cypriots.-
-The aim of the Turkish-Cypriot Administration's policy towards the settlers has been to promote their permanent establishment on the island -
-Over the years the growing numbers of the Turkish settlers and the role that some of them play in political life have created concerns within the Turkish-Cypriot community.-

-In 2003, the Council of Europe expressed its concern at the continuous outflow of the indigenous Turkish Cypriot population from the northern part. Their number decreased from 118 000 in 1974 to an estimated 87 600 in 2001.-

-Especially in these villages, the settlers had preserved their original social, economic and cultural characteristics and were therefore viewed as foreign elements by a number of Turkish Cypriots. Some of the people I spoke to even claimed that the settlers were moved by religious fundamentalism, which would cause tension between the settlers and the Turkish Cypriots.-

-Nevertheless, the most important measure for the settlers has been the possibility of acquiring Turkish-Cypriot nationality. In 1975, the Turkish-Cypriot Administration passed Act No. 3/1975, under which nationality could be given to anyone who requested it and, in particular, to members of the Turkish armed forces who had served in Cyprus, the wives, children and brothers of members of these forces who had fallen in Cyprus between 20 July 1974 and 20 August 1974 or to persons who had served in the Turkish Resistance Organisation in Cyprus or Turkey.-
-The Assembly is convinced that the presence of the settlers constitutes a process of hidden colonisation and an additional and important obstacle to a peaceful negotiated solution of the Cyprus problem.” (CoE Parliamentary Assembly 24 June 2003, “colonization)
http://www.db.idpproject.org/Sites/IdpP ... E000526F29

There you go with your one-sided moralising again. What about Turkish Cypriots who have had to live under inhumane embargoes for over thirty years. Or, if we want to go back a bit further, live as besieged refugees for over 40 years? You see, things are not as black and white as you would like them to be.

One-sided Karagiozi*, don’t loose you temper, put your glasses on and read. Things are not as black and white as you would like them to be. Things are only crystal clear.
-[i]There is no "embargo" against the Turkish Cypriots
The claim by the Turkish side that the Republic of Cyprus has imposed an economic ban, the so-called “embargo”, upon the Turkish Cypriot community living in occupied Cyprus, is imaginary and groundless. The authorities of the Cyprus Republic do not possess the means neither to impose a naval ban nor to force aircrafts, carrying passengers and goods to the occupied areas, to land at Larnaca airport.
If there is an obstruction to the economic transactions with the occupied areas, this is due to the fact that the Turkish Cypriots have unilaterally proclaimed a “state”, which was declared legally invalid by the UN Security Council, through resolutions 541 (1983) and 550 (1984). -

-European Courts’ Decisions
It is reminded that there is the decision of the European Court of Justice, which certainly does not constitute an embargo on exports, but demands that all exports originating from Cyprus be accompanied by the necessary plant sanitation certificates that only the legal authorities of the Republic - recognised by the EU - can issue.
There is also the human aspect of the matter, namely, the inalienable right to property and enjoyment of that property. There are international treaties protecting the right to property, and also UN resolutions (37/253, 13.5.1983) as well as decisions of other international organizations that mention the respect of the right to property of the Greek Cypriots who were expelled from their homes and properties by the Turkish occupation army. –

- Jean-Christophe Filory: There is no embargo on the northern part of Cyprus Mr Jean-Christophe Filory, Spokesman for the EU Enlargement Commissioner Mr Gunter Verheugen, emphatically denied that there is an embargo on the occupied areas of Cyprus.-[/i]
Read all the report:
http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... ght=Filory

*if you don’t know the word ask your Turkish friends for translation, thank you.

[RAFAELLA]

Double entry.

[RAFAELLA]

zan,
I see that you have found the "Main_Source" of idiotology.

...and here we have the return of another ...clever bozkurt!

[bg_turk]

Settlers are not killing the TC identity, in fact they are contributing to it. There are many bulgarian turk settlers in Cyprus who are proud to call themselves bulgarian turkish cypriot.

Hold on a second! How come a Bulgarian Turk settler, a SETTLER, can call himself bulgarian turkish Cypriot??? LOL You say "settler", you admit it and then you say they are proud to be called Tcs??? LOL This is an insult not to our IQ but to yours as well BG... and to yours as well!
….and I was living in my fiancée’s country, Italy, does this make me an Italian-Greek-Cypriot? LOL

My logic is simple karagozlum,
everybody who is born in Cyprus is a Cypriot.
So let me describe things as I see them. My ancestors used to live in Mongolia, so they decided to move to Bulgaria and we became Bulgarian Turks. Now if I decide to move to Cyprus, then I will be a Bulgarian Turkish immigrant/settler depending on how you choose to look at it, but my children who will be born there will be Bulgarian Turkish Cypriot, or in short BgTCs.
Anadinmi karagozlum?

[Eric dayi]

zan,
I see that you have found the "Main_Source" of idiotology.

...and here we have the return of another ...clever bozkurt!

Thanks Rafaella, I wonder if calling you a racist would be seen as returning a compliment! [/i]

[Eric dayi]

Settlers are not killing the TC identity, in fact they are contributing to it. There are many bulgarian turk settlers in Cyprus who are proud to call themselves bulgarian turkish cypriot.

Hold on a second! How come a Bulgarian Turk settler, a SETTLER, can call himself bulgarian turkish Cypriot??? LOL You say "settler", you admit it and then you say they are proud to be called Tcs??? LOL This is an insult not to our IQ but to yours as well BG... and to yours as well!
….and I was living in my fiancée’s country, Italy, does this make me an Italian-Greek-Cypriot? LOL

My logic is simple karagozlum,
everybody who is born in Cyprus is a Cypriot.
So let me describe things as I see them. My ancestors used to live in Mongolia, so they decided to move to Bulgaria and we became Bulgarian Turks. Now if I decide to move to Cyprus, then I will be a Bulgarian Turkish immigrant/settler depending on how you choose to look at it, but my children who will be born there will be Bulgarian Turkish Cypriot, or in short BgTCs.
Anadinmi karagozlum?

Bg_Turk, try using British Greeks and British Greek Cyptiots as examples, I'm sure her IQ will not be insulted then!

[zan]

Raffaella

Hold on a second! How come a Bulgarian Turk settler, a SETTLER, can call himself bulgarian turkish Cypriot??? LOL You say "settler", you admit it and then you say they are proud to be called Tcs??? LOL This is an insult not to our IQ but to yours as well BG... and to yours as well!
….and I was living in my fiancée’s country, Italy, does this make me an Italian-Greek-Cypriot? LOL

Italian- Greek-Cypriot is exactly what you would be. Perhaps you should get out a bit more because all over Europe thats what they are all calling for. In GB you have to have a test before you can call your self British-?. Note the British first. France is moving in the same direction. Germany probably has problems in that respect due to its history and that is where you come in Frau Rafaella. You would make a perfect assistant to Hier Main-source.

As for the Embargos:

The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) has been under economic and travel embargos by European and other nations since almost its inception. The Greek Cypriots requested this embargo, and it continues through the present day. However, restrictions were relaxed in 2004. Numerous United Nations resolutions have also been adopted which condemn the partition of the island and call for its reunification since its formation. The Republic of Cyprus has prospered since the division of the island, while the north has suffered under the trade and travel embargos and has relied on aid from Turkey to survive. The north remains less developed and poorer than the southern two-thirds of the island, and it has high unemployment and emigration rates.

References
Cyprus: A Country Study. 1993. Washington D.C.: The Library of Congress.

Joseph, Joseph S. 1997. Cyprus: Ethnic Conflict and International Politics. New York: St. Martin’s Press.

Kyle, Keith. 1997. Cyprus: In Search of Peace. London: Minority Rights Group.

Lexis-Nexis news reports 1979-2003.
http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/mar/asse ... upId=35201

No amount of denial will get rid of realities any more. Would you like to borrow my glasses Frau Rafealla

[Eric dayi]

Raffaella

Hold on a second! How come a Bulgarian Turk settler, a SETTLER, can call himself bulgarian turkish Cypriot??? LOL You say "settler", you admit it and then you say they are proud to be called Tcs??? LOL This is an insult not to our IQ but to yours as well BG... and to yours as well!
….and I was living in my fiancée’s country, Italy, does this make me an Italian-Greek-Cypriot? LOL

Italian- Greek-Cypriot is exactly what you would be. Perhaps you should get out a bit more because all over Europe thats what they are all calling for. In GB you have to have a test before you can call your self British-?. Note the British first. France is moving in the same direction. Germany probably has problems in that respect due to its history and that is where you come in Frau Rafaella. You would make a perfect assistant to Hier Main-source.

In Germany you have "Deutsche Juden"(German Jews), Deutsche Turken"(German Turks) and even "Deutsche Englander"(German English").

In the UK we have "British Jews", "British English", British Scottish", British Welsh", "British Irish" and even "British Greek/Greek Cypriots" and British Turks/Turkish Cypriots" but in Bulgaria you cannot be a "Bulgarian Turkish Cypriot"?

Who was is that mentioned something about "insulted IQ"?

[Main_Source]

zan,

I see that you have found the "Main_Source" of idiotology.

Here comes Eric Dayi...the man behind REAL ethnic cleansing of Turkish Cypriot identity.