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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:53 am

and this is ADDING to the Turkish Cypriot identity!? lol

I wonder how all these people will fit into the so called 'TRNC'.

What if the Greek Cypriot community of the 'TRNC' wanted to vote a Greek Cypriot into power...as in theory, GC refugee's would make the largest community in the north of the island. Would they be allowed? Would you give them that democratic right?
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Postby bg_turk » Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:39 am

Main_Source wrote:and this is ADDING to the Turkish Cypriot identity!? lol

I wonder how all these people will fit into the so called 'TRNC'.

What if the Greek Cypriot community of the 'TRNC' wanted to vote a Greek Cypriot into power...as in theory, GC refugee's would make the largest community in the north of the island. Would they be allowed? Would you give them that democratic right?


Of course! As long as they use the official language and swear loyalty to the TRNC anybody should be a president of the TRNC. In fact what a better publicity than having a GC as the president of the TRNC, this would give to the GC the confidence to return and make them proud citizens of the pseudo-puppy. Papa would be red with anger against these "traitors". Eventually when the time is right and the confidence between the two communities is reinforced by the peaceful coexistance of TCs and GCs in the TRNC, the RoC would be annexed to the TRNC, and the ultimate unification dream of every cypriot would come true.

Only if the TC leadership was a bit cleverer, things would be so different now.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:47 am

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Why arent they all flooding south you only have 2500 Tcs and 2000 of them are Gypsies. If TCs cant stand the north and its current administration they are free to go live "RoC" if life here was so bad they would be coming accross in thousands, I dont know anyone who has moved south after April 2003, maybe a few who have committed crimes and cannot stay in the north.


No, they are emigrating off the island.

VP, its people like you, Zan and BG Turk who are killing off the Turkish Cypriot identity from Cyprus, not Greek Cypriots. Its you who is welcoming the Turkish colonials with open arms in order to distort them natural demographics of the island...but all the while not even thinking about your own identity (well, I exclude BG from that) and how Turkish Cypriotness is dying.


Surely thats our problem MS nothing for you to worry about as for TCs going abroad many are also returning for retirement reasons or resettling in their homeland and rest assured if ever a solution was found there would be an influx of many well educated and younger TCs. Miltary service is another reason why many young TCs go abroad to educated and avoid coming back until they are eligable to do a shorter period of miltary service.

But this is just avoiding the real question of why TCs arent flocking to the "free" south?? Im sure you can work it out, but whether you just block it out is really down to your own personal psychological barriers and defence mechanisms.
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:31 pm

It IS something for me to worry about...because I want a true Turkish Cypriot representation on the island...not a manipulated Anatolian community who have no historical culture with the island.

Also, there are TC who live in the south...you need to get your facts right.

End of the day...you are so blinded by cementing a distorted Turkish demographic in Cyprus that you are killing off your own culture on the island. Remember, its YOUR ideologies that are cleansing Turkish Cypriotness from the island...not the Greek Cypriots.
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:32 pm

BG Turk...im sure VP and Zan would love a democratically elected Greek Cypriot leader in the 'TRNC' lol.
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Postby zan » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:40 pm

No, they are emigrating off the island.

VP, its people like you, Zan and BG Turk who are killing off the Turkish Cypriot identity from Cyprus, not Greek Cypriots. Its you who is welcoming the Turkish colonials with open arms in order to distort them natural demographics of the island...but all the while not even thinking about your own identity (well, I exclude BG from that) and how Turkish Cypriotness is dying.



I believe that the settlers below adapted and now call themselves Cypriots. :lol:



c.300 AD St Helen the mother of Constantine arrives in Cyprus with the cross of Christ which disappears and miraculously re-appears at the top of Mt Olympus in the Troodos range. Afterwards she brings cats to Cyprus to bring the snakes under control and Greek settlers from Epirus to boost the population.


This ancient non-Greek, non-alphabetic inscriptions are of tremendous importance. While the earliest examples, which date from as early as 1500 BC, can't be read, comparisons clearly show that the Cypriot syllabary seemed to have derived from Linear A, and so sort of like a sibling to Linear B. The first readable texts in this system came after the Greek settlers of the 12th century BC, and its use persisted into Classical times. It was only through the extensive Hellenisation of Alexander the Great that this script was finally abandoned.
The Cypriot Syllabary
http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history/05.htm

But it was the arrival of Greek settlers in the 11th and 12th centuries BC that determined the country's cultural identity, bringing the Greek language, religion, arts and traditions that survive today.
http://www.thisistravel.co.uk/travel/gu ... e_id=17418

The immigration of settlers from Greece, which had begun at least by 1200, led to the foundation of /memberloginGreek kingdoms covering most of the island, and, since the start of the 1st millennium BC, the Greek language has been predominant in Cyprus; the fact that the dialectal form in which it first appears is known as Arcado-Cypriot confirms traditions of the Peloponnesian origin—and…
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-33820
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:40 pm

Main_Source wrote:It IS something for me to worry about...because I want a true Turkish Cypriot representation on the island...not a manipulated Anatolian community who have no historical culture with the island.

Also, there are TC who live in the south...you need to get your facts right.

End of the day...you are so blinded by cementing a distorted Turkish demographic in Cyprus that you are killing off your own culture on the island. Remember, its YOUR ideologies that are cleansing Turkish Cypriotness from the island...not the Greek Cypriots.


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Why arent they all flooding south you only have 2500 Tcs and 2000 of them are Gypsies.


I did state there are around 2500 Tcs living in the south.

Thankyou for caring so much about TCs and their existence, Ill remember that next time I have to stop over in Turkey when flying to my country :wink:
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:41 pm

So Zan, you have no problem about the Turkish Cypriot identity of the island being eroded...

You like the fact that TC are made to feel like outsiders when in villages populated by Turkish settlers.

You are truly more of a Turk than a Cypriot arent you. Its people like you who kill of Turkish Cypriot identity, not the Greek Cypriots you accuse.
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Postby zan » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:55 pm

Main_Source wrote:So Zan, you have no problem about the Turkish Cypriot identity of the island being eroded...

You like the fact that TC are made to feel like outsiders when in villages populated by Turkish settlers.

You are truly more of a Turk than a Cypriot arent you. Its people like you who kill of Turkish Cypriot identity, not the Greek Cypriots you accuse.


The settlers are there! They leave only if they want to leave!! If the RoC government wants to deport them they can, if they become all powerful, or maybe they can fill the gas chambers. How about a firing squad, mass graves,,, now there’s a tried and tested formula. I think England should round up all us Cypriots and send US back home. Why should they have to put up with us just because our country wasn’t doing well at the time? I’ll tell you what, why doesn’t all the foreigners just go back home, I’m sure the Minoans will be happy
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Postby Main_Source » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:58 pm

a half arsed response lol....why are you tryingt to avoid the real question?

Go on, tell us the truth...do u like the fact that Turkey has imported these settlers with no regard to preserving Turkish Cypriot identity.
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