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Turk Cypriots start opening road dividing capital

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Postby Piratis » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:40 pm

So that the goodwilled GCs can continue isolation of the north

The isolation is caused by the illegal occupation. You are the ones who chose illegality, not us.

Anything the north does will be reduced to insignificance


No. There are many significant things Turkey can do: End the occupation, end the illegality, end the violations of our human rights. These are the significant things. Or at least return Famagusta as a first step.

How exactly it is significant the a GC will be allowed to go shopping in the shop that was stolen from him?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:45 pm

Piratis wrote:
So that the goodwilled GCs can continue isolation of the north

The isolation is caused by the illegal occupation. You are the ones who chose illegality, not us.

Anything the north does will be reduced to insignificance


No. There are many significant things Turkey can do: End the occupation, end the illegality, end the violations of our human rights. These are the significant things. Or at least return Famagusta as a first step.

How exactly it is significant the a GC will be allowed to go shopping in the shop that was stolen from him?


In other words jump into a dark hole with GCs holding the other end of the rope, somehow I dont think they will put much effort into ensuring you do not drop to the bottom. This is the impression you yourselves cultivate amongst TCs, which has only been bolstered over the past 2 years.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:47 pm

In other words jump into a dark hole with GCs holding the other end of the rope

Acceptance of legality and the end of human right violations are for you a "dark hole"?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:16 pm

Piratis wrote:
In other words jump into a dark hole with GCs holding the other end of the rope

Acceptance of legality and the end of human right violations are for you a "dark hole"?


Thats not the issue it will be GCs holding onto the other side of the rope how much can you trust them to ensure your future and that you are not left to crash to the bottom of the pit and break your neck. I liek the majority of TCs would want to know the rope was secure to many safety clips before taking that leap and not just the goodwill of GCs majority mentality.
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Postby RAFAELLA » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:55 pm

Cyprus government suspicious of new crossing

28/11/2005
www.financialmirror.com

The (Greek Cypriot) Republic of Cyprus government may not open its side of the new checkpoint being dismantled by the Turkish Cypriot side, following a row about whether the plans constitutes unacceptable militarty incursion into the Green Line.

Greek Cypriots were taken by surprise on Friday when the Turkish Cypriots started to dismantle the barrier. Previously, both sides had been blaming each other for the delay.

The new checkpoint is in downtown Nicosia at Ermou Street.

Suggestions that the Greek Cypriots would keep their side closed come on Sunday, when the Government Spokesman Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides said that actions by the Turkish army constitute a “flagrant violation of the status quo and a clear violation of all that was agreed on the Green Line since 1974”.

The main point at issue seems to be plans by the Turkish military to create and patrol a bridge over Ermou street. This is taken as an incursion into the UN-patrolled Green Line by Turkish forces.

“If our side is not satisfied, this scheme will not be accepted”, said Chrysostomides.
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First it was Strovilia, then Louroudjina, now Nicosia.....
It seems that the "good will" of the occupation army has no limits.
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Postby sadik » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:14 am

RAFAELLA wrote:Cyprus government suspicious of new crossing

28/11/2005
www.financialmirror.com

The (Greek Cypriot) Republic of Cyprus government may not open its side of the new checkpoint being dismantled by the Turkish Cypriot side, following a row about whether the plans constitutes unacceptable militarty incursion into the Green Line.

Greek Cypriots were taken by surprise on Friday when the Turkish Cypriots started to dismantle the barrier. Previously, both sides had been blaming each other for the delay.

The new checkpoint is in downtown Nicosia at Ermou Street.

Suggestions that the Greek Cypriots would keep their side closed come on Sunday, when the Government Spokesman Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides said that actions by the Turkish army constitute a “flagrant violation of the status quo and a clear violation of all that was agreed on the Green Line since 1974”.

The main point at issue seems to be plans by the Turkish military to create and patrol a bridge over Ermou street. This is taken as an incursion into the UN-patrolled Green Line by Turkish forces.

“If our side is not satisfied, this scheme will not be accepted”, said Chrysostomides.
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First it was Strovilia, then Louroudjina, now Nicosia.....
It seems that the "good will" of the occupation army has no limits.


Your details are wrong. The issue here is this: They are building a bridge over the road for pedestrians because they do not want their patrol road, which they already are patrolling, to be blocked. They are not going to patrol the bridge or use it for observation. I don't know if it's an incursion into the Green Line. So far, it doesn't look like that. Why do both sides are making such stupid noises before opening any chekpoint?
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Postby Sotos » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:51 am

Cyprus recalls decision to open new crossing in divided capital
Cyprus withdrew its consent to the opening of a new crossing at Ledra Street, the most visible symbol of the island's divide, government spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides announced here on Monday.

"The government of the Republic of Cyprus has withdrawn its consent to open Ledra Street because of the advance of Turkish occupation forces beyond the ceasefire line," Chrysostomides said. All necessary contacts and representations were made to the United Nations, the UN Peace Keeping Forces in Cyprus and in New York through the Permanent Representation of the Republic of Cyprus, he added.

He noted that Ambassador Sotos Zackheos, permanent secretary of the Cyprus Foreign Ministry, had also met with ambassadors of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council and informed them the actions of the occupation force.
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:29 pm

The (Greek Cypriot) Republic of Cyprus government may not open its side of the new checkpoint


flagrant violation of the status quo and a clear violation of all that was agreed on the Green Line since 1974”.


who can trust these guys anymore?
firstly it shows that all was said in our newsapers about talat building a wall as a big propaganda creation. and talat as a good player just proved them wrong...he is really making them desperate day by day.

now opening ledras is a violation of the status quo!!!!
(with which ofcource we are satisfied with)
lets keep the status quo. why not?
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Postby Piratis » Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:51 pm

cypezokyli, are you intentionally missing the point?

Here I will show you the problem again:

the advance of Turkish occupation forces beyond the ceasefire line


Of course we don't want the satus quo. We want the Turkish troops to be removed. Not to advance even further!!

Except if by "unification" they mean to occupy the whole Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:32 pm

Greek Cypriot paranoia at its best, keep up the good work the world is watching :wink:
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