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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby Maximus » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:13 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:OK, one fine day, Turkey will suddenly, of its own accord and without there being a comprehensive settlement, decide to depart and take every Turkish-speaking person with them, and things will be hunky dory. Great.



This is the comprehensive settlement. This is the ultimate best settlement for everyone but there are exceptions and they are too few and far between from what I can tell.

I did not say they have to take every Turkish-speaking person with them but I am certain that the vast majority will choose to go from those who actually are eligible to live in the Republic of Cyprus.

What was this persons true agenda? Was the true agenda to convince Greek Cypriots to accept the TRNC through "peace and reconciliation"? Does he support "political equality" and a 30% share in the Republic of Cyprus for the Turks?

Too little information yet attacking him is not the answer and I acknowledge this.
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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby Lordo » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:09 pm

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B25 wrote:Really Jerry, just because they keep their shit quiet doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but who would even dare to do anything the other side. What happened to that TC that had the Cyprus flag outside his shop? yes go on tell us, none of the TCs here supported him, right??? At least this side the police would be involved to find the culprits, the other side it is more like to be the police as culprits. Just check out what Tim is giving us on Turkey, same people, same mind set, corrupt, criminal and dictatorial minds.

I am not condoning for one second this action, but please don't try to make it look one sided. Tell us also how many TCs here have even voice a concern and a condemnation of the current Turkey situation, how many? that's right, zero, why? Because they support such actions and they also impose it in Cyprus.

Cheers and have a nice day


You miss my point, we want a single State, they for the most part don't. They want to legalise partition, friction between the communities north or south of the Green line simply reinforces their claim that we can't live together. What they do to Greek Cypriots in the occupied territory is not relevant, it probably doesn't hit the headlines but Turkey and the "trnc" will exploit every incident like this to show the two sides don't get on. I don't know the details of this incident but if the heroes that did it are caught they should be made an example of the show that the ROC will not tolerate such attacks.

if you still think you can have a unitary state means you have learnt nothing in 60 years. 50 years after bbf you may get unitary state. but we will decide that.
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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby Lordo » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:10 pm

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Lordo wrote:well said my left foot. there is a difference between trnc and roc. roc is a legal government accepted by the world. if you are judging yourselves with that the pirates are doing north of the green line you really have dropped your standards dear boy.

was it not you who banned the name ercan, you are bunch amateurs.


Great excuse Lordo,

You refuse what is right and proper but choose to support pirates and the Turkish Rampage in Northern Cyprus (TRNC).

Whatever negative consequences that are happening to the TCs is happening because of karma.

you are a religious nut = go back to church.

karma you belong to cave men.
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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby Jerry » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:58 pm

Maximus wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:OK, one fine day, Turkey will suddenly, of its own accord and without there being a comprehensive settlement, decide to depart and take every Turkish-speaking person with them, and things will be hunky dory. Great.



This is the comprehensive settlement. This is the ultimate best settlement for everyone but there are exceptions and they are too few and far between from what I can tell.

I did not say they have to take every Turkish-speaking person with them but I am certain that the vast majority will choose to go from those who actually are eligible to live in the Republic of Cyprus.

What was this persons true agenda? Was the true agenda to convince Greek Cypriots to accept the TRNC through "peace and reconciliation"? Does he support "political equality" and a 30% share in the Republic of Cyprus for the Turks?

Too little information yet attacking him is not the answer and I acknowledge this.


Maximus you are living in a dream world if you believe Turkey will simply just leave one day. Genuine Turkish Cypriots have every right to stay in Cyprus, no international body will endorse or accept a settlement that requires them to leave, it's a violation of their human rights. It's the same reason why the "trnc" will never be recognised - it violates our human rights. The best we can hope for is a loose federation or confederation that returns a significant share of the occupied territory because one day Turkey will devour the northern State.
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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby Maximus » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:10 pm

Jerry wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:OK, one fine day, Turkey will suddenly, of its own accord and without there being a comprehensive settlement, decide to depart and take every Turkish-speaking person with them, and things will be hunky dory. Great.



This is the comprehensive settlement. This is the ultimate best settlement for everyone but there are exceptions and they are too few and far between from what I can tell.

I did not say they have to take every Turkish-speaking person with them but I am certain that the vast majority will choose to go from those who actually are eligible to live in the Republic of Cyprus.

What was this persons true agenda? Was the true agenda to convince Greek Cypriots to accept the TRNC through "peace and reconciliation"? Does he support "political equality" and a 30% share in the Republic of Cyprus for the Turks?

Too little information yet attacking him is not the answer and I acknowledge this.


Maximus you are living in a dream world if you believe Turkey will simply just leave one day. Genuine Turkish Cypriots have every right to stay in Cyprus, no international body will endorse or accept a settlement that requires them to leave, it's a violation of their human rights. It's the same reason why the "trnc" will never be recognised - it violates our human rights. The best we can hope for is a loose federation or confederation that returns a significant share of the occupied territory because one day Turkey will devour the northern State.


We actually agree but Turkey still has to leave and Respect Cyprus EEZ.

This is what Turkey needs to do and the problem will be solved. I am certain that when this happens, the vast majority of (genuine) Turkish Cypriots will choose to leave with her too, along with her other genuine Turkish citizens and persons from third non-EU countries.
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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby Lordo » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:41 am

dream on dear boy, terkey will not leave till there is a bbf solution and tcs are allowed to govern themselves. and the moment you get cocky like last time she will come on to you like a ton of bricks. but this time you will not be able to recover.

get it into your thick head that tcs have as much right to exist in cyprus and govern themselves you control freak. but of course you belong to the group of cyprus is greek aren't you stupid boy.
as to ezz unless you sign for peace you will get bugger all out of the ground.
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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby Maximus » Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:21 pm

Which category do you fall into Lordo?

Will you ship out with the Turks or will you stay in Cyprus as a Cypriot? Given your answer above, It's got to be the former.
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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby Mustiejodu » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:09 am

B25 wrote:Really Jerry, just because they keep their shit quiet doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but who would even dare to do anything the other side. What happened to that TC that had the Cyprus flag outside his shop? yes go on tell us, none of the TCs here supported him, right??? At least this side the police would be involved to find the culprits, the other side it is more like to be the police as culprits. Just check out what Tim is giving us on Turkey, same people, same mind set, corrupt, criminal and dictatorial minds.

I am not condoning for one second this action, but please don't try to make it look one sided. Tell us also how many TCs here have even voice a concern and a condemnation of the current Turkey situation, how many? that's right, zero, why? Because they support such actions and they also impose it in Cyprus.

Cheers and have a nice day


Yes but the point here is how can both communities ever coexist when there is this sort of thing going on. This is a cypriot against a cypriot not a turk against a cypriot. 2 very different things here and should not be in the same context. This flares up the past. We can talk about how the turkish regime in the north operates but that's a different subject. Do you see the difference ? Or not?
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Re: incident in leymosun

Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:42 am

Jerry wrote:
Maximus you are living in a dream world if you believe Turkey will simply just leave one day. Genuine Turkish Cypriots have every right to stay in Cyprus, no international body will endorse or accept a settlement that requires them to leave, it's a violation of their human rights. It's the same reason why the "trnc" will never be recognised - it violates our human rights. The best we can hope for is a loose federation or confederation that returns a significant share of the occupied territory because one day Turkey will devour the northern State.

I agree entirely Jerry, the native to Cyprus T/Cs have as much right to remain in their homeland as you and I have.

Those that ought to leave Cyprus are the ones who consider foreign countries as their motherlands.
Cyprus belongs to its Cypriot people, and....Charlies !!
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