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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:59 am

So VP, when there is a solution and you restore the churches....



Are you going to also restore all that looted booty? You know the religious icons, artefacts and relics?
All the stuff stolen to make you illegal money?
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:06 am

what the hell for should we be restoring churches, more likely the building materials will be used for construction if there no peace otherwise restore your own churches.
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:18 am

Flying Horse wrote:So VP, when there is a solution and you restore the churches....



Are you going to also restore all that looted booty? You know the religious icons, artefacts and relics?
All the stuff stolen to make you illegal money?


If thats what the United Cyprus decides then thats what will happen otherwise its business as usual, unless the GCs want to give us reconition for us to improve our economical conditions and have surplus funds to restore these churches :wink:
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:15 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Flying Horse wrote:So VP, when there is a solution and you restore the churches....



Are you going to also restore all that looted booty? You know the religious icons, artefacts and relics?
All the stuff stolen to make you illegal money?


If thats what the United Cyprus decides then thats what will happen otherwise its business as usual, unless the GCs want to give us reconition for us to improve our economical conditions and have surplus funds to restore these churches :wink:


I'm not currently able to provide links, but, I'm sure I've read that the EU already provides funding to the north for restoration of protected and culturally historic religious buildings.

If this is indeed true, why is it not being spent on what it is intended for.

I'm sure somebody can help me out finding the information to back up what I think....or not ;)
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:32 pm

hello if the EU are providing funds for such restoraton then be assured it is being spent on exactly that because they are no fools when it comes to accepting and paying for projects, you have to jump through the loops to get paid. ı know of one project that is being funded Appostolos Andreas.
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:45 pm

, the EU still knowingly and purposefully provides substantial direct financial assistance to settlements in occupied territory – in Turkish-occupied Northern Cyprus, that is. So the EU funds the occupation of an EU member state. Turkey’s invasion and occupation of Cyprus in 1974 was condemned the UN Security Council, and the EU’s official policy is that the Turkish occupation is illegitimate, and Turkey must completely withdraw. The EU does not recognize the Turkish government in Northern Cyprus.

Nonetheless, the EU maintains an entire separate program to direct funds to Northern Cyprus.

They even put out a nice, colorful brochure last year.

The grants are pursuant to a 2006 regulation adopted by the EU to “end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community,” and allocated 259 million euros over five years, and now operates on an annual 28 million euro allocation (a sum that amounts to roughly 0.8 percent of Northern Cyprus[‘s GDP).

Projects include study abroad scholarships for students at the numerous Northern Cyprus universities (imagine such funding for students at Ariel University!); developing and diversifying the private sector through grants to small and medium- sized businesses; various kinds of infrastructure improvements (telecom upgrades, traffic safety, waste disposal); community development grants, funding to upgrade “cultural heritage” sites, and so forth. They even put on a concert.

The program basically gives grants to the Turkish business and private entities, and builds the infrastructure of the occupying government. The EU is doing exactly what its claims, in the settlement guidelines, international law prohibits.


http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Cont ... ory-327329
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:repulse just because you claim to have found a few restored mosques does not account for all the names listed, we to under economical embargoes have restored at lease one that I know of, does that excuse the desecration of the rest? You people only want to excuse your own actions of turning mosques into car parks and lay blame on someone else to excuse your own shit. You steal our recognition milk it for all its worth restore a few mosques and then have the nerve to blame us for not restoring churches instead of using the limited funds we have under the embargoes you force upon us to build roads and schools. Look at it from this angle if there is ever a solution we can restore the churches and build the knocked down mosques bringing them back to their former glory, deal?


dude, the list you provided is wrong, any desecration is Ignorance, and yet it seems right to you to allow the plunder that comes with excusing people for their own actions as Human beings. you are willing to live with "Turks", and because you cannot abide a "Greek", all Greeks are anathema to you. it is a poor reflection of who you are, don't you think?
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:11 pm

Flying Horse wrote:
, the EU still knowingly and purposefully provides substantial direct financial assistance to settlements in occupied territory – in Turkish-occupied Northern Cyprus, that is. So the EU funds the occupation of an EU member state. Turkey’s invasion and occupation of Cyprus in 1974 was condemned the UN Security Council, and the EU’s official policy is that the Turkish occupation is illegitimate, and Turkey must completely withdraw. The EU does not recognize the Turkish government in Northern Cyprus.

Nonetheless, the EU maintains an entire separate program to direct funds to Northern Cyprus.

They even put out a nice, colorful brochure last year.

The grants are pursuant to a 2006 regulation adopted by the EU to “end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community,” and allocated 259 million euros over five years, and now operates on an annual 28 million euro allocation (a sum that amounts to roughly 0.8 percent of Northern Cyprus[‘s GDP).

Projects include study abroad scholarships for students at the numerous Northern Cyprus universities (imagine such funding for students at Ariel University!); developing and diversifying the private sector through grants to small and medium- sized businesses; various kinds of infrastructure improvements (telecom upgrades, traffic safety, waste disposal); community development grants, funding to upgrade “cultural heritage” sites, and so forth. They even put on a concert.

The program basically gives grants to the Turkish business and private entities, and builds the infrastructure of the occupying government. The EU is doing exactly what its claims, in the settlement guidelines, international law prohibits.


http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Cont ... ory-327329


And how many have they actually granted which have not been completed? thats the question you should be asking, that would then answer your sweeping accusation.
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:16 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:repulse just because you claim to have found a few restored mosques does not account for all the names listed, we to under economical embargoes have restored at lease one that I know of, does that excuse the desecration of the rest? You people only want to excuse your own actions of turning mosques into car parks and lay blame on someone else to excuse your own shit. You steal our recognition milk it for all its worth restore a few mosques and then have the nerve to blame us for not restoring churches instead of using the limited funds we have under the embargoes you force upon us to build roads and schools. Look at it from this angle if there is ever a solution we can restore the churches and build the knocked down mosques bringing them back to their former glory, deal?


dude, the list you provided is wrong, any desecration is Ignorance, and yet it seems right to you to allow the plunder that comes with excusing people for their own actions as Human beings. you are willing to live with "Turks", and because you cannot abide a "Greek", all Greeks are anathema to you. it is a poor reflection of who you are, don't you think?


Where did I state what you claim you are the ones making excuses for turning mosques into car parks whereas ı have condemned the desecration of churches in the north even proposing that they all be restored to their former glory after we find a solution and your inhumane embargoes are lifted so that we may also utilize the recognition you hold hostage.
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Re: The Destruction of Cultural Heritage in Cyprus by Turkey

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:21 pm

ah, i see, you don't read posts actually.

...stick to the dogma, woof woof eh vp.
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