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Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:40 am

I was thinking about installing some sort of extra space heating capacity and, in the process have considered kerosene and wood fuelled stove. I have also looked at solar thermal air heating.

I came across an interesting concept called the rocket space mass heater, a wood burning stove that is reckoned to burn anything up to 80% less fuel as it makes more efficient use of the heat. Has anyone else seen this?

In a traditional wood burner stove much of the heat is wasted, as it just goes up the chimney, but the design of this particular style of stove apparently extracts most of the heat and stores a good proportion of it in a thermal mass. The final exhaust is probably only at 40 c. This is achieved by having an 'J' shaped burner where the flame is induced by draught to burn horizontally and a long horizontal chimney passing through the mass, which can be made of clay or sand or a similar

A good link is herehttp://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55601-Rocket-mass-heaters

There are plenty of other sites and videos on YouTube, etc., about them.

Apart from space heating they can also be modified to include water heating capacities, say by including a back boiler or a heat exchanger circuit in the line.

There could be business opportunity for someone with access to steel drums and metal pipes to make the key metal parts.
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Re: Space heating.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:30 pm

As I mentioned above another area I have looked at is Solar heating. Cyprus is by Sunshine but I suspect that we do not tap its full potential. Many buildings have solar water heating and we are developing PV parks, but there is probably a lot more we can do to reduce our dependancy on electricity by looking at small scale schemes.

One such is here

http://www.motherearthnews.com/renewable-energy/do-it-yourself-solar-heat-collectors.aspx#axzz2p92wxz00

A simple device that can he home built for a relatively small amount. It can generate a stream of warmed air up to about 140 to 150 F or about 65c.

For more projects look here.

http://www.builditsolar.com/index.htm

Many of the projects are best used in either new buildings or in substantial renovations, but some can be retrofitted.

Again there a lots of you tube videos.

I think sites like this should be required reading for architects, designers and builders, and indeed anyone looking at commissioning a building.
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Re: Space heating.

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:54 pm

Came across these mass heaters a while ago.

Yes, a horizontal chimney transferring what would normally be waste heat to a mass inside the room. In some designs the mass is designed as a seat, so you get a nice warm bum.
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Re: Space heating.

Postby kurupetos » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:09 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Came across these mass heaters a while ago.

Yes, a horizontal chimney transferring what would normally be waste heat to a mass inside the room. In some designs the mass is designed as a seat, so you get a nice warm bum.

Does it work in your sewage? :?
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Re: Space heating.

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Re: Space heating.

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:30 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:Here you go...http://www.geo-exchange.ca/en/Download/Conference2013/Day1/Mueller%20-%202013%20Canadian%20GeoExchange%20Conference.pdf

There are a number of techniques to extract heat from Sewage...

He lives inside the sewage. :roll: :lol:
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Re: Space heating.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:00 am

kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Here you go...http://www.geo-exchange.ca/en/Download/Conference2013/Day1/Mueller%20-%202013%20Canadian%20GeoExchange%20Conference.pdf

There are a number of techniques to extract heat from Sewage...

He lives inside the sewage. :roll: :lol:
and I think with your trolling of bill c on this topic you have shown you are full of shit.
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Re: Space heating.

Postby Lordo » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:19 pm

how dare you attack my simple charlui friends gurubedo, if there is any spare heat left can you heat the space between your ears maybe.
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Re: Space heating.

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:40 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Here you go...http://www.geo-exchange.ca/en/Download/Conference2013/Day1/Mueller%20-%202013%20Canadian%20GeoExchange%20Conference.pdf

There are a number of techniques to extract heat from Sewage...

He lives inside the sewage. :roll: :lol:
and I think with your trolling of bill c on this topic you have shown you are full of shit.

You are the master of troll, dog. :roll:
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Re: Space heating.

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:41 pm

Lordo wrote:how dare you attack my simple charlui friends gurubedo, if there is any spare heat left can you heat the space between your ears maybe.

Eat your beans... they will keep you warm... :mrgreen:
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