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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby Cap » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:55 pm

Banana's everywhere. :lol:

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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:17 am

The claims of undue process are getting closer and closer to PM Erdogan with another story in Zaman, which claims that a property developer was able to circumvent the refusal of a very significant amendment to a planning permission for a major project, by appealing directly to Erdogan.

Allegedly claims substantiated by wire-tapping.

"...Following the rejection by the city council to amend the construction plan of the land, the issue was later settled according to the mogul's wishes after Ağaoğlu took up the issue with Prime Minister Erdoğan as per a claim in the graft probe documents, the daily said.

As per the daily, in one of his wiretapped telephone conversations with Timur Soysal, a member of the İBB city council, Ağaoğlu was heard saying about the issue: “I got it done through the prime minister. I'm clear about it. You insistently did not move to settle it. I then told Kadir Bey (Kadir Topbaş, the mayor of the İBB) about the issue but did not get any results. Then I went to the big boss [most likely referring to Prime Minister Erdoğan] and he directly instructed the minister [of environment and urban planning, Bayraktar]. ‘Settle the issue,' he [the prime minister] said...”


This is deffo turning into Erdogate.
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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:14 am

Egemen Bagis Accused...

Zaman reports that a complaint has been filed in the regional prosecutor's office against Bagis the Clown for alleged graft in a tender.

"... Ironsmith in eastern Turkey files complaint against two ministers

An ironsmith in Diyarbakır province filed a complaint against two ministers implicated in the corruption investigation which has resulted in the detention of Baris Güler, the son of Interior Minister Muammer Güler and Kaan Çağlayan, son of Economy Minister Zafer Çağlayan, as well as the chief executive of the state-owned Halkbank, Suleyman Aslan, on Monday.

Zülkif Yıldırım, who makes a living as an ironsmith in Diyarbakır province, submitted a complaint petition to the Diyarbakır Public Prosecutor's Office against Interior Minister Güler and EU Affairs Minister Egemen Bağış, who were allegedly involved in the tender rigging and bribery. The details of the complaint have not been revealed.

The petition was later sent to İstanbul Chief Public Prosecutor's Office. ..."
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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby B25 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:52 am

bill cobbett wrote:Egemen Bagis Accused...

Zaman reports that a complaint has been filed in the regional prosecutor's office against Bagis the Clown for alleged graft in a tender.

"... Ironsmith in eastern Turkey files complaint against two ministers

An ironsmith in Diyarbakır province filed a complaint against two ministers implicated in the corruption investigation which has resulted in the detention of Baris Güler, the son of Interior Minister Muammer Güler and Kaan Çağlayan, son of Economy Minister Zafer Çağlayan, as well as the chief executive of the state-owned Halkbank, Suleyman Aslan, on Monday.

Zülkif Yıldırım, who makes a living as an ironsmith in Diyarbakır province, submitted a complaint petition to the Diyarbakır Public Prosecutor's Office against Interior Minister Güler and EU Affairs Minister Egemen Bağış, who were allegedly involved in the tender rigging and bribery. The details of the complaint have not been revealed.

The petition was later sent to İstanbul Chief Public Prosecutor's Office. ..."


Bill. just wondered, is there any one left in the Chief Prosecutor's Office to deal with this, or have they all be sacked??? :lol: :lol:

Seems to me in Turkey if you want to be above the law just sack them all ..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Still not a dickie bird from our Turk invaders on this front. Says it all .....
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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:09 pm

The Turkish Union of Bar Associations has brought an action before the Council of State to cancel, on the grounds that it violates the separation of powers, a change that was made on Friday to the rules governing police investigations, whereby the police will have to inform the provincial or sub-provincial governor as well as the public prosecution of their actions. This may sound like a technicality, but this change was introduced to make it easier for the government to monitor the police and so make it harder for them to continue with the ongoing corruption investigations into the ruling party.

http://birgun.net/haber/yasani-da-al-git-8816.html
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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby B25 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:23 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:The Turkish Union of Bar Associations has brought an action before the Council of State to cancel, on the grounds that it violates the separation of powers, a change that was made on Friday to the rules governing police investigations, whereby the police will have to inform the provincial or sub-provincial governor as well as the public prosecution of their actions. This may sound like a technicality, but this change was introduced to make it easier for the government to monitor the police and so make it harder for them to continue with the ongoing corruption investigations into the ruling party.

http://birgun.net/haber/yasani-da-al-git-8816.html

Tim, if this was April, i would probably have considered that as the April Fools joke of the century, but given it is true, or likely to be, then it is bloody scarey, when the government demand advance warning when they are about to get caught. Jesus christ, is it just me that see's this institutional corruption and bribery, i haven't seen any reaction from any of the EU countries, and how does this fit in with the Aquis?

And still no denouncement from the turks in Cy. Well, well, seems they must be apart of it, because it obviously suits them.
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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:08 pm

The AKP is going to use every card in its hand to try and save its skin. Gülen does not control the government or parliament, so the AKP will use its control of these institutions in every way it can. The talk is of the dismissal of at least ten provincial governors known to be/suspected of being Gülenists. Expect a counter-attack in the form of terrorism charges against the Gülen movement brought by public prosecutors loyal to the AKP.
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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:02 pm

The NYT covers the slide in USA/Turkey relations over the Turkish allegations that the US is in some way involved in the agitation against Erdogan.

The last couple of paras give one assessment of the depth of the growing mistrust...

"... As with most alliances, the relationship has had its ebbs and flows over the past generation. But the current tension has a facet that was missing even in some of the most fraught episodes between the two countries, such as in 2003 when Turkey refused permission for the American military to invade Iraq across its borders, and in 2010 when it voted against United Nations sanctions on Iran.

“It’s the first time in memory that pro-government newspapers are calling for the American ambassador to leave,” Mr. Cagaptay said. “That’s unique...”


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/24/world ... ted=2&_r=1
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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:08 am

Zaman reporting that the number of police officers involved in the anti-corruption investigations who have been moved to other duties has reached 500 across Turkey.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-334870- ... -duty.html
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Re: 'Turkey Is Not A Banana Republic'

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:34 am

...wow, i'll add this one for the record:

http://famagusta-gazette.com/turkey-min ... 855-69.htm

Announcing his decision, Environment Minister Erdogan Bayraktar said the prime minister should also step down.
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