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[B25]

Yes Tim, But, 'People are being fired from government posts, not from opposition parties,' fired with no reason and only since the start of this corruption investigation. It is not about whether the Government can do this or not, since they were all in happy employment until that time. Plus, don't they have unfair dismissal in Turkey???

You also go onto say ' ... not from opposition parties' but then contradict yourself by saying ' .. I am personally delighted to see the Gülenists purged from public office' so either they are not removing the opposition or you are happy that they are. Confused.

Bottom line is, these officers, prosecutors were ok up until the scandal and they reason for their removal is pretty damn obvious, it is a government cover up and obstruction of any real justice. I wonder if Erdogan would have been so forward coming if it were the sons of opposition ministers only????

This stinks whichever way you slice it. I am also still amazed that the Turks here in Cyprus have made absolutely no mention of any of this, their silence speaks volumes. I suppose when you are bent yourself, you cannot criticise anyone else. A???

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed, Erdogan may win this battle he has with Gulen, but the facts remain, and it will not be so easy for him, tainted, even if he wins the Presidency. and if Turkey survives his first term in office, with his relentless pursuit of grand projects, a second term, to change the world, toward "Turkish" needs.

[Tim Drayton]

Yes Tim, But, 'People are being fired from government posts, not from opposition parties,' fired with no reason and only since the start of this corruption investigation. It is not about whether the Government can do this or not, since they were all in happy employment until that time. Plus, don't they have unfair dismissal in Turkey???

You also go onto say ' ... not from opposition parties' but then contradict yourself by saying ' .. I am personally delighted to see the Gülenists purged from public office' so either they are not removing the opposition or you are happy that they are. Confused.

Bottom line is, these officers, prosecutors were ok up until the scandal and they reason for their removal is pretty damn obvious, it is a government cover up and obstruction of any real justice. I wonder if Erdogan would have been so forward coming if it were the sons of opposition ministers only????

This stinks whichever way you slice it. I am also still amazed that the Turks here in Cyprus have made absolutely no mention of any of this, their silence speaks volumes. I suppose when you are bent yourself, you cannot criticise anyone else. A???

You obviously have your own perspective on these things, and I have mine. I think it stinks that an Islamist sect (not a political party) with its headquarters in America can infiltrate the police, judiciary and other offices of the state and pervert these to serve its own ends, leading to Stalinesque show trials in which many hundreds of secularists have been imprisoned on fabricated evidence. That is why I shed no tears at seeing these people being purged. Of course it also stinks that Erdoğan is conducting this purge just to save himself and those close to him from being prosecuted for corruption. Do not imagine for a minute that these corruption investigations are motivated by some kind of noble desire to see justice done. The Gülenists, the very people who brought Erdoğan to power and until recently his closes allies, have surely known for years that Erdoğan is bent and they are now using it as a weapon in the political battle that has erupted between the AKP and the Gülenists. In common with everyone who supports secularism in Turkey, I would love to see them destroy one another, and even think that this could happen.

Perhaps what you mean is that people from opposition parties are being removed from their state jobs (well, nor exactly, because the Gülen movement is a secretive religious sect and not a party), so yes, if you are saying that people in opposition to him are being removed from office, that is right, but nobody is being removed from positions within political parties, which is what I thought you meant.

[repulsewarrior]

...with zero friends so to speak, because the subterfuge has been disturbed, International relations become even more important, news for the masses is not all that he needs.

...rock and a hard place for the silent man. interesting times for all of us. in any case, things do not go on forever, and entropy seems to demand from Erdogan changes, without Gulen, (if his Party stands beside him), i think if he is to survive, he must demonstrate Grace, such a Tribute could be Cyprus, at least i hope so.

[Tim Drayton]

We will see; I still believe that it is America that wants Erdoğan out, and they were using the Gülen movement to do this. If I am right, Erdoğan will be kicked out of office one way or another. Time will tell. It was hard to predict that the AKP would conduct such a huge purge in all the places that threatened them. Who can predict what will come next?

[Tim Drayton]

The public prosecutor's office in Izmir has launched an investigation into police officers who have failed to execute arrest warrants in the huge corruption investigation that was recently initiated in the city.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/2729 ... hocvqxbmfk

[B25]

The public prosecutor's office in Izmir has launched an investigation into police officers who have failed to execute arrest warrants in the huge corruption investigation that was recently initiated in the city.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/2729 ... hocvqxbmfk

I rest my case.

[Flying Horse]

We will see; I still believe that it is America that wants Erdoğan out, and they were using the Gülen movement to do this. If I am right, Erdoğan will be kicked out of office one way or another. Time will tell. It was hard to predict that the AKP would conduct such a huge purge in all the places that threatened them. Who can predict what will come next?

As do I..... Several times I have said

The award for : Dictator of the Year 2014....goes to Erdogan!

The US do like to title leaders as dictators once they aren't useful and they want them out.

[Tim Drayton]

Zekeriya Öz, the public prosecutor responsible for the massive corruption investigation initiated on 17 December in Istanbul and who has now been appointed Vice Chief Prosecutor for Bakırköy sub-province in Istanbul, has alleged in a press statement that Prime-Minister Tayyip Erdoğan sent two people to him to halt the investigation, even going as far as to suggest that they made veiled death threats (to which he has said he would consider it an honour to die in the execution of his duty).

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/2735 ... ttdnkbjzyd

[Tim Drayton]

We will see; I still believe that it is America that wants Erdoğan out, and they were using the Gülen movement to do this. If I am right, Erdoğan will be kicked out of office one way or another. Time will tell. It was hard to predict that the AKP would conduct such a huge purge in all the places that threatened them. Who can predict what will come next?

As do I..... Several times I have said

The award for : Dictator of the Year 2014....goes to Erdogan!

The US do like to title leaders as dictators once they aren't useful and they want them out.

Even more interestingly, if the Gülen movement is unable to execute a post-modern coup to remove Erdoğan from office, which is looking increasingly likely, the USA will reconsider whether this movement has any further use to it as an agent for its neo-imperialist designs, which may lead to its rapid collapse.