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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:51 pm

I dont appear to read any support for your argument from the international players blaming the TCs and Turks can you supply any? This speaks volumes if you cant and should tell you a lot.
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I dont appear to read any support for your argument from the international players blaming the TCs and Turks can you supply any? This speaks volumes if you cant and should tell you a lot.


Perhaps you could supply us with details of any international support for a Two Countries Two Sovereignties CY, as Eroglu and Turkey want , any time in the past 40 years, other than from Turkey and "trnc" ... ???
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby Lordo » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:25 pm

listen my ugly charlui who cares who supports what. we are one of the founding nations and we have tried for decades to find a solution but unless you reduce us to minority status you will not agree. time is up go your own way.

i do realise that life without us will not be easy for you bankrupt boys but it is time. i also agree with you that freedom is never given and has to be won at the barrel of a gun.

we may yet have to try this last option. perhaps you will get the message this time.
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:46 pm

Well, whilst we're waiting for VP to find us a single reference to show support for Eroglu's and Davutoglu's aim of a Two Citizenships Two Sovereignties CY from anyone outside Turkey in the past 40 years and for Shitto to replace the green slime he has for a brain...

The head of DIKO Nicolas Papadopoulos puts things pretty well when he said today ...

"... Davutoglu’s comments constituted “a monument to Turkish intransigence, provocation and arrogance”. ..."
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:24 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:I dont appear to read any support for your argument from the international players blaming the TCs and Turks can you supply any? This speaks volumes if you cant and should tell you a lot.


Perhaps you could supply us with details of any international support for a Two Countries Two Sovereignties CY, as Eroglu and Turkey want , any time in the past 40 years, other than from Turkey and "trnc" ... ???


Didnt your parents teach you its rude to answer a question with another question, I asked first, but we all know the answer, you cannot provide outright support for your leaders intransigence stance, this gc leader that looks like Hitler is out of line.
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:07 am

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:I dont appear to read any support for your argument from the international players blaming the TCs and Turks can you supply any? This speaks volumes if you cant and should tell you a lot.


Perhaps you could supply us with details of any international support for a Two Countries Two Sovereignties CY, as Eroglu and Turkey want , any time in the past 40 years, other than from Turkey and "trnc" ... ???


Didnt your parents teach you its rude to answer a question with another question, I asked first, but we all know the answer, you cannot provide outright support for your leaders intransigence stance, this gc leader that looks like Hitler is out of line.


So, we'll take it your answer then is, that there's has never, ever been any support for Two Sovereignties Two Citizenships outside the usual Turkish wet-dreamers.

... and as for you Wanko ... stop what you're doing or you will go blind.
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby Demonax » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:14 am

Viewpoint wrote: I asked first, but we all know the answer, you cannot provide outright support for your leaders intransigence stance, this gc leader that looks like Hitler is out of line.


Nice try, VP, but it just won't work. You're going to have a hard time portraying Anastasiades as an intransigent hard liner! This was the man who supported the Annan Plan, remember?

And look who he's up against: Eroglu and Davutoglu. Those paragons of diplomacy and flexibility!

If that's your Plan B I'd give it all of five minutes! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:23 am

Yes, Davutoglu... everything he has touched from Libya, Egypt to Syria has been a disaster.

He's prob the greatest asset the Republic has.

Anyways... it may not all be over. Some sources are saying that we are seeing the usual orchestrated theatrics from Eroglu and Davutoglu ahead of a significant breakthrough. Who really knows.

Here's what the CY Mail has to to report, all unsourced so make what you will of it...

"...Meanwhile, Greek Cypriot sources close to the talks said it was hard to say there has been any progress since Friday but that they will wait to see if anything new comes from the Turkish Cypriot side next week and what it will look like.

Another source said it looked like there would be one more effort to overcome the deadlock on the wording of the joint declaration but he didn’t know when that would be.

A diplomatic source said a lot of people have been working very hard, not just in Cyprus, but around the world, to bring the effort 99 per cent to completion.

Regarding the seemingly negative climate, they said the Turkish Cypriots were engaging in theatrics to hide the fact that historic breakthroughs are about to be made.

“There is only one per cent to go. Cyprus is on the verge of a new and defining High-Level Agreement.”

Of course, the 99 per cent could be lost if the interested parties fail to stay focused on the end goal, they added. ... "
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby boulio » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:03 am

There also rumors that the EU and Britain have jumped in more hands on for the the talks due to the fact that the EU and Britain both are worried with what is going on in Catalonia and Scotland with the referendums of independence movements and they wants federal solution within the EU to be strengthened and neither side to break away once in the EU.
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Re: Eroglu and Davutoglu Destroy Hopes for Talks Re-start

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:26 am

Those grains of sand are on the move.
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