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[Lordo]

its because she knows you will not accept it stupido.

she also said we cannot go to annan plan as it was refused so nothing in the annan will be offered again. you lot could not see beyond your noses, i accept that the ugly cahrlui can see further then the most of you,

[Demonax]

its because she knows you will not accept it stupido.

she also said we cannot go to annan plan as it was refused so nothing in the annan will be offered again. you lot could not see beyond your noses, i accept that the ugly cahrlui can see further then the most of you,

Who is this 'she' who says the Annan Plan is dead and buried then insists it must be the basis for talks?

Some schizoid acquaintance of yours?

[Lordo]

she is the one who shafted you and is ready to do it one more time just as soon as you think you are safe,

[Jerry]

Neither side has the brains to outsmart the other. Turkey could give back Varosha tomorrow and gain a huge diplomatic advantage at no cost to itself, it still has other things to bargain with.

By the same token the ROC could forget its demand for "pre conditions" and talk to Eroglu. As soon as he rejects the terms of the UN resolutions and goes on about "two founding states" (in effect recognition of "trnc") the Greek Cypriots would be justified in telling Downer "we told you so" and leave the talks.

[Jerry]

its because she knows you will not accept it stupido.

she also said we cannot go to annan plan as it was refused so nothing in the annan will be offered again. you lot could not see beyond your noses, i accept that the ugly cahrlui can see further then the most of you,

Who is this 'she' who says the Annan Plan is dead and buried then insists it must be the basis for talks?

Some schizoid acquaintance of yours?

Davu in drag

[Demonax]

Neither side has the brains to outsmart the other. Turkey could give back Varosha tomorrow and gain a huge diplomatic advantage at no cost to itself, it still has other things to bargain with.

By the same token the ROC could forget its demand for "pre conditions" and talk to Eroglu. As soon as he rejects the terms of the UN resolutions and goes on about "two founding states" (in effect recognition of "trnc") the Greek Cypriots would be justified in telling Downer "we told you so" and leave the talks.

Isn't that exactly what has happened though? Let's not kid ourselves that no negotiations have been happening. The two interlocutors have been engaged in talks for months. What we have today is the outcome of those talks exactly as you described. And the reason for the collapse is entirely down to the Turkish insistence on two states. I don't hear anyone blaming Anastasiades for holding Eroglu to account over this. On the contrary, it's flushed out the arch-partitionist's real intentions sooner rather than later.

[Viewpoint]

All the world sees is the intransigence of your leader on demanding like a baby pre conditions to talks, its like accept my demands which are not negotiable which to the world is another way of saying we dont want to negotiate and our leader is saying no pre conditions they are willing to go into discussions tomorrow.

[Demonax]

All the world sees is the intransigence of your leader on demanding like a baby pre conditions to talks, its like accept my demands which are not negotiable which to the world is another way of saying we dont want to negotiate and our leader is saying no pre conditions they are willing to go into discussions tomorrow.

Nice try. But no-one is going to blame Anastasiades for not reaching a deal with Eroglu. After all, it's Turkey and Eroglu who have refused to accept the UN resolutions as the basis for an agreement.

It was a smart move by Anastasiades to bring up the red lines in advance of talks. Its goal was to test Turkish intentions and it made Eroglu's insistence on a two-state solution the cause of the impasse. Davutoglu's belligerent statement just made it easier for Anastasiades to end the game.

[Jerry]

Neither side has the brains to outsmart the other. Turkey could give back Varosha tomorrow and gain a huge diplomatic advantage at no cost to itself, it still has other things to bargain with.

By the same token the ROC could forget its demand for "pre conditions" and talk to Eroglu. As soon as he rejects the terms of the UN resolutions and goes on about "two founding states" (in effect recognition of "trnc") the Greek Cypriots would be justified in telling Downer "we told you so" and leave the talks.

Isn't that exactly what has happened though? Let's not kid ourselves that no negotiations have been happening. The two interlocutors have been engaged in talks for months. What we have today is the outcome of those talks exactly as you described. And the reason for the collapse is entirely down to the Turkish insistence on two states. I don't hear anyone blaming Anastasiades for holding Eroglu to account over this. On the contrary, it's flushed out the arch-partitionist's real intentions sooner rather than later.

So let's formalise this intransigence at formal talks so that interested parties can see who is to blame.

[Lordo]

you must think terkey is stupid enough to give you bastards varosa without opening ercan.

i think you will find terkey has the upper hand my charluis.