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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby MrH » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:53 pm

Answer this my Greek Cypriot Compatriots...

If the North is as "illegal" as you are saying and that you believe that Turkey has no right there, and that all the so-called legal parameters point to the TRNC as being illegal, then.....

Why do you continue to Support and Maintain the UN based "CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT".

If we are so wrong, and you are so right, Why don't you dismiss this Agreement and sent the UN back home?

Let me tell you why? Because Turkey has you, legally, by the BALLS! You:

ARE COMPELLED TO SIT AROUND A TABLE AND DISCUSS A COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT
TURKEY AND THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS DO NOT NEED TO DO ANYTHING IN TERMS OF ANY SO-CALLED CONCESSIONS
AND, THE SITUATION WILL STAY EXACTLY AS IT IS UNLESS THIS "COMPREHENSIVE" AGREEMENT IS SECURED


In other words, the Only element that is progressive is that you are losing the battle to the huge amount of settling Turks from Turkey in the TRNC, and that of the entire island. These wonderful, Rich, Determined, Highly Educated and Very Hard Working people have integrated, overturned and replaced the original Turkish Cypriots of the island whom, including myself, moved to the UK and Australia back in the 1960, 70 and 80s. The Turkish Cypriots left are the OLDER Generation who now live on Turkey's Very lucrative STATE PENSIONS.

Please, try not to swallow too hard! :lol:

Some links for those wanting them:

"UNFICYP Mandate
In the absence of a political settlement to the Cyprus problem, the mandate of UNFICYP has been periodically extended. At the end of every six-month mandate period, the Secretary-General has reported to the Security Council, that in the light of the situation on the ground and of political developments, the continued presence of the Force remains indispensable, both in helping to maintain calm on the island and in creating the best conditions for his good offices efforts. For its part, the Council has regularly extended the mandate of the Force for six-month periods."


"Maintenance of Ceasefire and Military Status Quo
Following the hostilities of July and August 1974, the Security Council adopted a number of resolutions which have affected the functioning of UNFICYP and have required the Force to perform certain additional functions relating, in particular, to the maintenance of the ceasefire. Following the de facto ceasefire, UNFICYP inspected the deployment of the Cyprus National Guard and the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot forces, and ceasefire lines and a buffer zone were established between the areas controlled by the opposing forces.

The ceasefire lines extend approximately 180 kilometres (111.85 miles) across the island. The buffer zone between the lines varies in width from less than 20 metres (21.87 yards) to some 7 kilometres (4.35 miles), and it covers about 3 per cent of the island, including some of the most valuable agricultural land. Strict adherence to the military status quo in the buffer zone, as recorded by UNFICYP at the time, has become a vital element in preventing a recurrence of fighting. UNFICYP maintains surveillance through a system of observation posts, and through air, vehicle and foot patrols. The task of the Force has significantly been complicated by the absence of a formal ceasefire agreement. As a result, UNFICYP has been confronted with hundreds of incidents each year. The most serious incidents tend to occur in areas where the ceasefire lines are in close proximity, particularly in Nicosia and its suburbs.

Over the years, UNFICYP’s structure, strength and its concept of operations have been reviewed and adjusted on several occasions, in light of the developments on the ground. The Force has continued to investigate and act upon all violations of the ceasefire and the military status quo. Its reaction in each case depends on the nature of the incident and may include the deployment of troops, verbal and written protests and follow-up action to ensure that the violation has been rectified or will not recur. In addition to maintaining the military status quo, UNFICYP must also preserve the integrity of the buffer zone from unauthorized entry or activities by civilians. As a result, UNFICYP has from time to time become involved in crowd control. The Force has also continued its activities relating to clearing minefields located in the buffer zone.

The situation in the buffer zone between the two sides remained calm, and there has been a decrease in military violations. The opposing forces demonstrated restraint and overall good cooperation with UNFICYP. Nevertheless, that generally good cooperation has been marred by increased restrictions imposed on the Force by the Turkish forces, which has constrained its ability to carry out its mandate and posed significant difficulties for its personnel."



http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/unficyp/background.shtml
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby MrH » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:55 pm

In addition to the above....let's see how courageous and tough the Greek Cypriots are in NOT signing the next mandate! Go on, make our day! Chickens! You may sometimes talk the talk, but can you walk the walk? Sad!
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby MrH » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:56 pm

"The Greek Cypriot administration has no Effective control over the Northern Territory of the island of Cyprus"..... EU
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby MrH » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:02 pm

«In the absence of a political settlement to the Cyprus problem, UNFICYP has remained on the island to supervise ceasefire lines, maintain a buffer zone, undertake humanitarian activities and support the good offices mission of the Secretary-General.» United Nations.

The Above is all that matters...in black and white. Read it over and over again please in order to fully understand it...don't even miss a word.
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:07 pm

MrH wrote:Answer this my Greek Cypriot Compatriots...

If the North is as "illegal" as you are saying and that you believe that Turkey has no right there, and that all the so-called legal parameters point to the TRNC as being illegal, then.....

Why do you continue to Support and Maintain the UN based "CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT".

If we are so wrong, and you are so right, Why don't you dismiss this Agreement and sent the UN back home?

Let me tell you why? Because Turkey has you, legally, by the BALLS! You:

[b]ARE COMPELLED TO SIT AROUND A TABLE AND DISCUSS A COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT

It’s none of the above MrH and I’m surprised you’re so naïve so let me be frank with you…

The only reason they TOLERATE your stupidities; Turkey’s stupidities, and the “TRNC’s” stupidities, is because at this period in time they are OUTGUNNED plain and simple.

There is absolutely no other reason because the RoC has the moral high ground, the legal high ground, the historic high ground, the RELIGIOUS high ground, and every other high ground imaginable on its side… bar the military one!

The day they catch Turkey militarily weak (and assuming you’ll still be pretending to be a state at the RoC's expense) will be the day they’ll cut you to pieces and make bed spreads out of your hides… make no mistake about that and I’ll bet you that not a single other country in the UN will have any qualms about it.
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby DT. » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:13 pm

MrH wrote: . These wonderful, Rich, Determined, Highly Educated and Very Hard Working people have integrated, overturned and replaced the original Turkish Cypriots of the island whom, including myself, moved to the UK and Australia back in the 1960, 70 and 80s. The Turkish Cypriots left are the OLDER Generation who now live on Turkey's Very lucrative STATE PENSIONS.





http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/unficyp/background.shtml


:lol: you've got nothing to worry about from us matey, I'd be worried about a couple of Tc's reading this bollocks and wanting some explanations!
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:16 pm

MrH, do you always SHOUT to get your point across?
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby kurupetos » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:39 pm

Flying Horse wrote:MrH, do you always SHOUT to get your point across?

Old dogs bark louder, because they know that sooner or later they will be put down. :wink:
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:04 pm

Mr H,

Without Turkey’s financial and military support the “TRNC” will collapse overnight.

They will not be able to function as an entity of any kind and your so-called government will simply resign and jump on the first boat to Turkey. Meanwhile within 48 hours the RoC forces will overrun any resistance faster than you can say “momma”.

And finally, the overall reaction from the international community will be that Cyprus is enforcing UNSC Resolution 353 (1974) and is therefore acting within its legal rights.

Do you now better understand the precariousness of your existence?

Let me sum it up for you in one sentence…

The “TRNC” can never be independent with a strong Turkey, and cannot exist at all with a weak Turkey.

Now that’s a catch 22 if I ever did see one!
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Re: Why the TRNC will be Recognised

Postby Lordo » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:39 pm

you live in dream land gr. tcs can live with terkey or without. you really are all blind. whats the eu gona do sit by and watch tcs starve to death. that s what you would like but mafis gurban you swines.

are tcs not eu citizens.
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