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[boulio]

Wonder why mr.h didn't mention Nagorno-Karabakh at all in is analysis?

[DT.]

Wonder why mr.h didn't mention Nagorno-Karabakh at all in is analysis?

[Lordo]

is that not where armenians took azeri land and still hang on to it. very relevant indeed.

[Jerry]

Here you go Mr H:-

http://www.justice.gov.tr/e-journal/pdf/LW7081.pdf

The Community and its member States will not recognise entities which are the
result of aggression (page 8)

The doctrine of non-recognition, also known as the Stimson Doctrine of nonrecognition,
means to not grant recognition to the new entities or the some factual
positions which are the result of any illegal actions such as using force.54 It supported the principle that legal rights cannot obtain from an illegal situation. ( ex injuria jus non
oritur) (page 10)

Read, enjoy and then shove it where the sun does not shine. Look who wrote it and yet no mention of "trnc"

[Lordo]

Here you go Mr H:-

http://www.justice.gov.tr/e-journal/pdf/LW7081.pdf

The Community and its member States will not recognise entities which are the
result of aggression (page 8)

The doctrine of non-recognition, also known as the Stimson Doctrine of nonrecognition,
means to not grant recognition to the new entities or the some factual
positions which are the result of any illegal actions such as using force.54 It supported the principle that legal rights cannot obtain from an illegal situation. ( ex injuria jus non
oritur) (page 10)

Read, enjoy and then shove it where the sun does not shine. Look who wrote it and yet no mention of "trnc"

trust a charlui to come up with such crap. i see that whenever it suits you a terk is talking sense. i did not realise that there no tcs in cyprus and they were not in any danger, so the terks came along and occupied purely gc lland and there is no tc land occied by the roc.

with mentality like that you will end up with no tcs and 5 million settlers in the north. enjoy it while it lasts becasue they will find another reason perhaps gas to take the rest.

[GreekIslandGirl]

... if it hasn't Practically happened already!

Then what's your problem?

[supporttheunderdog]

Oh I dunno B25, Scotlands got a great big wall there for a reason. All be it derelict now and just there for tourists these days

I'm not sure the Scots will be an independent state any time soon though.

The Geordie whall was built to keep the Scots out....it was a Scottish descended monarch, Anne Stuart, who foisted the union on England....

[MrH]

To all the GC's and their sympathizers whom have answered this string....Lordos, Get Real, B25, Jerry, Bill, demonax...etc

Firstly, thank you for your replies regardless of how one sided they may be. I will try to answer your replies in one sweep. Firstly, Please do not forget how the ROC was first ALLOWED to be formed after a Terrorist Greek Cypriot "EOKA A" Campaign against the British after 1955, ending in 1959, forced the Weak British at the time to submit to the "Recognition" of the ROC. If the British were the Chinese or Turkish, you guys would have suddenly disappeared with the way that you sought to murder those wanting peace at the time! Secondly, Turkey's assumed recognition of the GC-ROC, if you truly understand politics, would actually be a serious blow back to the Greek Cypriots as Turkey would set the stage of Officially recognising Two States on the island, but that will not happen as Turkey wants a BBF - Full domination!

As for the situation involving Cyprus' u turn on Kosovo, it just goes to show how easily lead and bought the Greek Cypriots are, and why they will soon agree to a two state formula on Cyprus....the Annan Plan 6.

And finally:

Demonax wrote:

Unfortunately what Mr. H overlooks is that the 'trnc' has been illegally established on 80 per cent Greek Cypriot land which makes any form of recognition impossible. I thought that was pretty clear by now.

This above quote I had to comment on as it's literally the laugh of the century. In answer, I would ask Demonax to think about how far back do you want to go; Ottoman Rule in Cyprus since 1571, the Vakiflar establishment...or the mythical Ancient Greek times? Before you answer...ask yourself this, does AUSTRALIA care about whom owned their current land before their time, Do the AMERICANS? NO! The world's current situation is summed up as follows - "The Strongest survive!" and the Greek Cypriots lost the Northern part and feel bitter about it because they picked on the Kin(Turkish Cypriots) or the older brother(Turkey) whom their older brother (Greece)was/and still is too weak to fight its battles. As Turkey will never be a part of the EU, I would say that you should seriously get used to living with a northern neighbour whose Turkish population is growing exponentially out of control.

The real world no longer cares about HISTORY, and nor should the Greek Cypriots. Even in Schools the subject of History is not in the top five, or even in the top 10 for that matter - Maths, English, Science, Computer Studies, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, blah blah....explained? Stop looking at Salamis and Karpaz and crying, but concentrate on salvaging your current status - the TRNC is here to stay regardless of whether you like it or not. As for your so-called Greek Cypriot land in the North, President Eroglu has ordered a massive re-sale and demolish project that is to see 26 hotel venues, casino and the influx of another 200'000 turks onto the island in the next five years. Don't believe me, ask KITOP and the IPC.

[Demonax]

And finally:

Demonax wrote:

Unfortunately what Mr. H overlooks is that the 'trnc' has been illegally established on 80 per cent Greek Cypriot land which makes any form of recognition impossible. I thought that was pretty clear by now.

This above quote I had to comment on as it's literally the laugh of the century. In answer, I would ask Demonax to think about how far back do you want to go...

You really are having a hard time grasping the issue at hand. We only need to go as far back as the UN resolutions. In particular, Resolution 541, 1983 which declared the illegality of the 'trnc' and reaffirmed Turkey as an illegal occupying power.

In making the assertion: “why the 'trnc' will be recognised” you fail to explain how the 'trnc' will overturn all the UN resolutions lined up against it and gain the approval of the UN Security Council and the General Assembly...

Has thirty years of abject failure taught you nothing?

[Lordo]

resolution mesolution evolution is there any more olutions, bring em on.