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[erolz66]

There is a train of thought that GCs had the democratic right to demand ENOSIS. That is NOT the case. There was a 20% TC minority, and you can't legally force them into something they genuinely feared. It is like Australia which has a 75% Anglo/British population. They do not have any democratic right to demand ENOSIS with the UK (not that they ever wanted it) and take the other 25% with them.

What is more you can not demand ENOSIS as a genuine expression of the right to self determination of a single unitary Cypriot people, when the very demand itself by definition says there is no Cypriot people, just a majority who are part of a unitary Greek peoples and some others who can either lump it or fuck off. By defining GC as part of the unitary Greek people you also then, by definition, define TC as part of some other peoples and thus force on them a different and separate right to self determination, that is equal to any other peoples right to self determination as a people.

It seems to me that a few on this forum need to take a good long hard look at themselves.

Indeed but will they ?

[Paphitis]

There is a train of thought that GCs had the democratic right to demand ENOSIS. That is NOT the case. There was a 20% TC minority, and you can't legally force them into something they genuinely feared. It is like Australia which has a 75% Anglo/British population. They do not have any democratic right to demand ENOSIS with the UK (not that they ever wanted it) and take the other 25% with them.

What is more you can not demand ENOSIS as a genuine expression of the right to self determination of a single unitary Cypriot people, when the very demand itself by definition says there is no Cypriot people, just a majority who are part of a unitary Greek peoples and some others who can either lump it or fuck off. By defining GC as part of the unitary Greek people you also then, by definition, define TC as part of some other peoples and thus force on them a different and separate right to self determination, that is equal to any other peoples right to self determination as a people.

It seems to me that a few on this forum need to take a good long hard look at themselves.

Indeed but will they ?

No the shitheads on here probably will not!

But they are not representative of the GC population at large.

The vast majority of GCs and TCs actually got along like a house on fire and there was a lot of cooperation and respect between them until the shitheads started to go stupid and ruined it for everyone!

[GreekIslandGirl]

What is more you can not demand ENOSIS as a genuine expression of the right to self determination of a single unitary Cypriot people, when the very demand itself by definition says there is no Cypriot people, just a majority who are part of a unitary Greek peoples and some others who can either lump it or fuck off. By defining GC as part of the unitary Greek people you also then, by definition, define TC as part of some other peoples and thus force on them a different and separate right to self determination, that is equal to any other peoples right to self determination as a people.

Of course you would "define" it as such since by the isolationist policies of Britain and Turkey, we now have the British Bases and Military Turkey helping themselves to a part of Cyprus which suits Turks just fine.

[erolz66]

Of course you would "define" it as such since by the isolationist policies of Britain and Turkey, we now have the British Bases and Military Turkey helping themselves to a part of Cyprus which suits Turks just fine.

I do realise the futility of trying to discuss anything with someone like yourself who will simply insist 2+2=7 if it suits their agenda to do so. However having acknowledged that it is just a plain fact that what enosis says is that there is no such thing as a Cypriot people, just that there is numerical majority of people living in Cyprus who are an indivisible part of the Greek people and some others.

[kurupetos]

Of course you would "define" it as such since by the isolationist policies of Britain and Turkey, we now have the British Bases and Military Turkey helping themselves to a part of Cyprus which suits Turks just fine.

I do realise the futility of trying to discuss anything with someone like yourself who will simply insist 2+2=7 if it suits their agenda to do so. However having acknowledged that it is just a plain fact that what enosis says is that there is no such thing as a Cypriot people, just that there is numerical majority of people living in Cyprus who are an indivisible part of the Greek people and some others.

Enosis would have been good for you TCs, because you would be part of the EU and not depended on backward Turkey and its Anatolian retards.

But of course you would have to work and not live off from your mama's breast.

[Get Real!]

Enosis between Greece and Turkey is the only way forward for Cyprus.

Think about it...

[kurupetos]

Enosis between Greece and Turkey is the only way forward for Cyprus.

Think about it...

No, enosis is over. Hellas will annex Asia Minor to reform the Byzantine Empire.

[GreekIslandGirl]

However having acknowledged that it is just a plain fact that what enosis says is that there is no such thing as a Cypriot people, just that there is numerical majority of people living in Cyprus who are an indivisible part of the Greek people and some others.

Rubbish. It would have been no different to how, right now, many Turks live in Greece, and live much better lives than if they lived under Turkish rule (as you do in the occupied north).

You are just too brainwashed to see how much harm was really on offer from the so-called "self-determination" gift given with the one hand whilst hiding in the other the way to grab half of Cyprus for Britain and Turkey to share.

[supporttheunderdog]

Can anyone explain this to me. Not in down town SA, but in a 'civilised' country apparently.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr ... 76952.html

I wonder what someone might calls these people???

I rest my case.

I will call them cunts but not on the coincidental basis of Skin tone or ethnic origin...

[erolz66]

Rubbish. It would have been no different to how, right now, many Turks live in Greece, and live much better lives than if they lived under Turkish rule (as you do in the occupied north).

http://www.nationalia.info/en/news/92

The fact is the TC community saved both GC and TC alike from the nightmare of being ruled by and from Greece today. You should be thanking us for that.