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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby B25 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:52 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Totally agree, seeing they rejected the only plan put to a referendum they should put forward exactly what they think a solution should be for the whole world to see.


Here you go again, that statement should be corrected to say exactly how it was, thus;

" seeing they rejected the only unfair, unjust, illegal and totally Turkey orientated plan put to a referendum "

That would have been a correct statement to make. Don't you agree??
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:51 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Totally agree, seeing they rejected the only plan put to a referendum they should put forward exactly what they think a solution should be for the whole world to see.


Here you go again, that statement should be corrected to say exactly how it was, thus;

" seeing they rejected the only unfair, unjust, illegal and totally Turkey orientated plan put to a referendum "

That would have been a correct statement to make. Don't you agree??


A plan prepared by the UN and backed by many of the big players its very unlikely they will look at it through your glasses, you rejected the only plan put to referendum and like it or not thats a minus in the eyes of the international community. So the ball to put forward a plan is firmly in the GCs court and was expected after the referendum but as usual the GCs show they are full of hot air and no real substance or they would have placed a new revised plan on the table taking into account the demand of both sides.
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby B25 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:00 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Totally agree, seeing they rejected the only plan put to a referendum they should put forward exactly what they think a solution should be for the whole world to see.


Here you go again, that statement should be corrected to say exactly how it was, thus;

" seeing they rejected the only unfair, unjust, illegal and totally Turkey orientated plan put to a referendum "

That would have been a correct statement to make. Don't you agree??


A plan prepared by the UN and backed by many of the big players its very unlikely they will look at it through your glasses, you rejected the only plan put to referendum and like it or not thats a minus in the eyes of the international community. So the ball to put forward a plan is firmly in the GCs court and was expected after the referendum but as usual the GCs show they are full of hot air and no real substance or they would have placed a new revised plan on the table taking into account the demand of both sides.


The usual crock of shit from you VP, only to be expected. A plan by the UN you say, huh! Yeah. ok, lets us see which one version 1, 2, 3 ,,,,,,,, or the one Turkey wanted. OK, now we understand.
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby Lordo » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:26 pm

going back to the original post, anastasiades is playing for a fool. just as his local problem are removed he will return to normal.
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby Demonax » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:54 pm

New DIKO leader supports the President's position on the need for a joint communique:

Speaking after the national council meeting, Papadopoulos said as far as the latest developments in the peace process are concerned, “we agree with the handling of the president”.

“As regards the joint communiqué, the president must insist on his position that we should not sacrifice content for the sake of form. The basis of the talks must be clarified.

“Constructive ambiguities over the content of the communiqué simply help the Turkish Cypriot side depart from the framework of the negotiations. If we proceed with an unclear communiqué and unclear basis, we will simply delay apportioning blame because we will not be able to have any real progress in the talks,” he said.

The new DIKO leader further argued: “The joint communiqué is not a formality, it is an essential clarification on the basis of the talks. And we will support this position of the president. We seek to strengthen his negotiating position.”


http://cyprus-mail.com/2013/12/03/new-l ... s-support/
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby boulio » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:31 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Totally agree, seeing they rejected the only plan put to a referendum they should put forward exactly what they think a solution should be for the whole world to see.


Here you go again, that statement should be corrected to say exactly how it was, thus;

" seeing they rejected the only unfair, unjust, illegal and totally Turkey orientated plan put to a referendum "

That would have been a correct statement to make. Don't you agree??


A plan prepared by the UN and backed by many of the big players its very unlikely they will look at it through your glasses, you rejected the only plan put to referendum and like it or not thats a minus in the eyes of the international community. So the ball to put forward a plan is firmly in the GCs court and was expected after the referendum but as usual the GCs show they are full of hot air and no real substance or they would have placed a new revised plan on the table taking into account the demand of both sides.


VP The plan was prepared by david hannay not the UN.WHICH BIG players britain and the us?china russia and france never backed it.the EU never did either or cyprus wouldnt be in the eu and you would be recognized.
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:12 am

Why do you guys have a problem grasping reality you were going into the EU whether you said yes or no, wasnt it your x commi leader who said we will enter then amend the AP and get a Yes from the GCs? You had absolutely no incentive to negotiate thats why papastroploplos didnt in order to dupe you and get a No out of you people. As for the big players they wont forget that easily another failed attempt and watch the cookie crumble, so the GCs are playing a very dangerous game as they are the ones still stuck on issuing statement and not going to the negotiating table...keep up the good work you are playing right into Turkeys hands.
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby Demonax » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:35 am

Viewpoint wrote:Why do you guys have a problem grasping reality you were going into the EU whether you said yes or no,... As for the big players they wont forget that easily another failed attempt and watch the cookie crumble, so the GCs are playing a very dangerous game as they are the ones still stuck on issuing statement and not going to the negotiating table...keep up the good work you are playing right into Turkeys hands.


The whole point of the Annan Plan was to neutralize the effect on Turkey of Cyprus joining the EU. But Britain and Turkey overplayed their hand and the Plan was resoundingly defeated. That chance has gone.

It's Turkey that hasn't been able to grasp the new reality. The Annan Plan is dead and buried. Things have moved on, VP. The old threats don't work anymore.
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:09 am

You again under estimate your opponents USA UK and Turkey the AP will always be the foundation of any future XYZ plan believe me İ got it from yhe horses mouth.
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Re: Intransigent Eroglu Refuses Joint Statement

Postby Demonax » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:16 am

Viewpoint wrote:You again under estimate your opponents USA UK and Turkey the AP will always be the foundation of any future XYZ plan believe me İ got it from yhe horses mouth.


There won't be any talks on any plan unless Eroglu agrees to a joint communique first.
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