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[Demonax]

Dont take this the wrong way but it is coming accross as its either the GC way or the highway, we dont find this sort of forced criteria very genuine or trustworthy.

Yes, it's time to play hardball with Eroglu and Ertug. Looks like the big players are falling in behind calls for a joint statement so it should concentrate a few minds in the occupied areas.

[Viewpoint]

Whos falling in line?

[Demonax]

Whos falling in line?

We already know about the EU Commission. Now according to Talat in Kibris newspaper: ‘from the international point of view the common declaration became a precondition and big states of the world are now intervening for it’.

[Viewpoint]

Whos falling in line?

We already know about the EU Commission. Now according to Talat in Kibris newspaper: ‘from the international point of view the common declaration became a precondition and big states of the world are now intervening for it’.

Any links?

[bill cobbett]

Whos falling in line?

We already know about the EU Commission. Now according to Talat in Kibris newspaper: ‘from the international point of view the common declaration became a precondition and big states of the world are now intervening for it’.

Any links?

Talat's speech (with those same words) is covered by many of the press-sites up there.

[Lordo]

answer the question have we ever had such a precondition before. was it not you assholes who used to say no preconditions and no sufocating time frames. when did we ever do a joint statement. date asshole date is what you shoudl be posting as to when it happened last.

interesting you still think you will get a single enetity. dream on the time has gone about 10 years ago.

[Maximus]

its realistic to expect the settlers and the Turkish army to depart to end the Cyprus problem.

[DT.]

Don't really understand what all the fuss is about this joint statement. The talks have always had a pre-condioned agreement of their scope. The 2 leaders do not meet up to discuss the price of pork bellies and whether or not to purchase the latest Ipad. They are meeting to discuss the solution of the Cyprus Problem, That in itself is a pre-condition. Now in what context are we discussing this solutions? Well its under the auspices of the UN so everyone assumes the discussion will take place around the matters the UN has highlighted which are the single sovereignty, single citizenship and BBF character of the country. Talat agreed to the same thing with Papadopoulos in the July joint statement and so should Eroglu. Otherwise what are we discussing?

[Demonax]

Don't really understand what all the fuss is about this joint statement. The talks have always had a pre-condioned agreement of their scope. The 2 leaders do not meet up to discuss the price of pork bellies and whether or not to purchase the latest Ipad. They are meeting to discuss the solution of the Cyprus Problem, That in itself is a pre-condition. Now in what context are we discussing this solutions? Well its under the auspices of the UN so everyone assumes the discussion will take place around the matters the UN has highlighted which are the single sovereignty, single citizenship and BBF character of the country. Talat agreed to the same thing with Papadopoulos in the July joint statement and so should Eroglu. Otherwise what are we discussing?

Eroglu has openly said that he does not accept the UN resolutions, the previous high-level agreements or a single sovereignty. He wants a confederal solution, essentially two states and two sovereignties. Kmowing he will not get this from the GCs his plan is to collapse the talks, claim no solution is possible and turn to the international community for eventual recognition of the pseudo-state.

The demand for a joint commitment is designed to pre-empt this strategy.

[DT.]

Don't really understand what all the fuss is about this joint statement. The talks have always had a pre-condioned agreement of their scope. The 2 leaders do not meet up to discuss the price of pork bellies and whether or not to purchase the latest Ipad. They are meeting to discuss the solution of the Cyprus Problem, That in itself is a pre-condition. Now in what context are we discussing this solutions? Well its under the auspices of the UN so everyone assumes the discussion will take place around the matters the UN has highlighted which are the single sovereignty, single citizenship and BBF character of the country. Talat agreed to the same thing with Papadopoulos in the July joint statement and so should Eroglu. Otherwise what are we discussing?

Eroglu has openly said that he does not accept the UN resolutions, the previous high-level agreements or a single sovereignty. He wants a confederal solution, essentially two states and two sovereignties. Kmowing he will not get this from the GCs his plan is to collapse the talks, claim no solution is possible and turn to the international community for eventual recognition of the pseudo-state.

The demand for a joint commitment is designed to pre-empt this strategy.

hmm a little too simplistic for my liking. He can always collapse the talks with insistence of Turkish guarantees later AND accept the pre-condition now. I still fail to see what Turkey has to gain from a recognised state in the north more than a BBF.