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[boulio]

bill do we know what is the turkish proposal?

[bill cobbett]

bill do we know what is the turkish proposal?

Well ... we have the report from Afrika on it... if it's to be believed cos Afrika goes on to make assumptions in the last para as to what the CBMs could be and which the CY PIO summarises as...

"... Afrika reports that the Turkish document submitted to the Greek Cypriot side includes the following: the federal state will consist of two federate states and no one of them will dominate over the other. The power of granting citizenship and work permit will belong to the central federal government. Those who comply with the criteria will be granted citizenship or work permit and those who do not will leave the island.

“In this situation, the fate of the people from Turkey on the island depends on the federal government after the solution. At the last stage it will be determined how many persons will remain here and how many will leave”, writes Afrika adding that the document includes also “confidence building measures”, for which it could obtain no details.

However, according to Afrika’s assumptions, these measures includes the return of occupied closed city of Varosha to its legal owners, the opening of the port of Famagusta for the Turkish Cypriots conducting international trade under the control of the EU, the beginning of direct flights from illegal Tymvou airport and the opening of the Turkish ports to Greek Cypriot vessels and airplanes. ... "

[Lordo]

and what have i been saying to you charluis all this time. say not to that one, i dare you.

you think you are going to control what happene din the north in the last 50 years, dream on.

[repulsewarrior]

...so, if there is a Republic, and a Turkish Constituency, where is the Greek Constituency?

[Lordo]

south of the border will be the gc constituency and north will be tc. it is the only way forward.

[boulio]

Tc state in the north? Mersin

[repulsewarrior]

south of the border will be the gc constituency and north will be tc. it is the only way forward.

...what is it today, stick up your arse?

as if a Republic cannot exist. as if Cypriots are not Individuals; even if i am a Person, i don't need a "Greek" or a "Turk" to tell me what i am as a Human Being, do you? indeed, i ask a serious question, and you, like the rest of "them" join in the smarm. WTF, i would figure by now, you understand, "this" must stop.

...hitai, lordoui mou, say it out loud, "i love Cyprus", "i am proud of being a Turk, but i am no "Turk", i am Cypriot first."

...Bicommunal lalis, ask, where is the Greek Constituency? ask, the Cypriot Flag to fly higher, the Flag of Cyprus representing Freedom above all, even if there are many other flags that express our Liberty. only a traitor thinks that Cyprus is "Greek", it may be Greek but it is Cypriot. and only a "Turk" thinks Cypriots do not exist, like "Greeks", they think that this island should be torn between them. wake up re, you of all people are intelligent enough to know that the demographics of this island will explode, the idea of remaining the way it is anathema to what is natural, and what is natural is that this island is a cross-road for three Continents, and every major Religion in the World. it is not a Greek Constituency, and a Turkish Constituency that will save "us", without a political system that defines the "us" as this island's dwellers, being Bicommunal, having the Liberty of choosing, by where one resides (Bizonal), the self representation as Persons as well.

[kurupetos]

Tc state in the north? Mersin

Ulan Bator.

[bill cobbett]

Afrika also reporting on the increasing marginalisation of Two Countries Eroglu of "trnc", with confirmation that the Turkish FM Davutoglu presented him with an alleged GB/GD/TR plan and with what amounts to an ultimatum during their meeting last week.

Afrika uses words which translate as ...

... "this can not be challenged in any way"...

For turkish-speakers...

"... Ýngiltere ve Yunanistan'la mutabakata vardýktan sonra adaya gelen Davutoðlu, Eroðlu'nun önüne belgeyi koyarak, "Buna hiçbir þekilde itiraz olamaz, beðensek de, beðenmesek de" dedi. Böylelikle Rum tarafýna verilen belge belirlendi..."

[Lordo]

rw after a solution there will be to federal states with borders. i am not suggesting we will have barbed wire but bbf means to states and the locations will be where i said and of course it may well move slightly about 10% or so but no more.

let me help you. he also told him that this is the document whether we like it or not.