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[Lordo]

explain to me why nasty wanted a joint agreement when the tcs accpeted everything that was going to be in the joint agreement by voting for the annan plan.

I think Lordo has finally cracked up.

you wish dear boy, now go play with your toys, now theres a good boy.

you have not got a clue of what is happeing on the ground.

[bill cobbett]

Ortam reports on a very critical speech made by Sener Elcil, General Secretary of the "Turkish" Cypriot Primary School Teachers’ Trade Union (KTOS). A speech in which he severely criticises Two Countries Eroglu.

This summarised by the CY PIO ...

".... Elcil: Eroglu pretends to be an “angel of peace” forgetting that he has been opposing to the solution for 40 years

Turkish Cypriot daily Ortam newspaper (12.12.13) reports that Sener Elcil, general secretary of the Turkish Cypriot Primary School Teachers’ Trade Union (KTOS), has said that recently the Turkish Cypriot leader Dervis Eroglu pretends to be an “angel of peace” and in every statement he makes he says he is in favour of the unification of Cyprus and the continuation of the negotiating process.

In a statement issued yesterday, Elcil noted the following referring to Eroglu: “He seems to have forgotten that he is the one who for years has been saying that ‘not even a single small stone will be given back’ and that ‘the non-solution is the solution’, that he has been going around the villages making a campaign against the Annan Plan, and that after instructions taken by Ankara he has signed and put into effect Ankara’s package, which drags the Turkish Cypriot community to annihilation”.

Elcil pointed out that there could be no solution to the Cyprus problem “by taking instructions from Turkey”, “by accusing the other side” and “by protecting the strategic interests of Turkey and not the ones of the Turkish Cypriots at the table”.

Elcil said that Eroglu refrains from announcing what he puts onto the negotiating table and what proposals he submits “in order for forcing the Greek Cypriots to abandon the table”. Elcil pointed out that Eroglu is going to the negotiating table demanding “separate sovereignty” and “citizenship for the population carried from Turkey” [Translator’s note: as the Turkish settlers are described] and “trying to acquit the separatist structure” created on the island by Turkey after 1974.

Elcil noted that Eroglu submits these proposals to the table knowing that the Greek Cypriots will reject them and argued that “divorce before marrying” is being discussed at the negotiations.

Elcil said: “It is obvious that there will be no solution with this mentality. The desirable result with the lies [regarding the existence] of embargo and isolation and the statement that ‘the Greek Cypriots do not want a solution’ is to achieve the division of the island. This is the continuation of the ‘Plan for Recovering Cyprus’ determined in 1956 by you together with the governments of Ankara from which you take instructions for years.. ”.

[Lordo]

what power has ecil got and what difference doeas it make what he says. water under the bridge my little ugly flower and you will see the talks collapse one last time and that will be that.

[bill cobbett]

It's over... no prospect of a joint statement thanks to Eroglu's Intransigence and Extremism and Davutoglu's Unhelpful Interference .

http://famagusta-gazette.com/its-over-e ... 761-69.htm

[Lordo]

at last you realise two states is the only solution. better late then never.

[kurupetos]

at last you realise two states is the only solution. better late then never.

No, we will solve it on the battleground.

[Viewpoint]

After 50 years was anyone hopeful of a result?

[Demonax]

After 50 years was anyone hopeful of a result?

Well Turkey thought there were going to be talks in October leading to a referendum next Spring. Or don't you read the Turkish Press?

[Viewpoint]

After 50 years was anyone hopeful of a result?

Well Turkey thought there were going to be talks in October leading to a referendum next Spring. Or don't you read the Turkish Press?

And it is your Hitler style leader who has thwated the start of the talks....the pressure must be mounting.

[bill cobbett]

The pressure is mounting on the Intransigent Eroglu.

Is Eroglu Being Sidelined...???

Two summaries of the press of the Occupied Areas from the CY PIO...

Firstly this, which indicates a rift between Eroglu and Nami...

"...When reminded of self-styled foreign minister Ozdil Nami statements that a solution could be achieved and asked whether Nami is part of his team or he acts separately, Eroglu said that Nami is the “minister of foreign affairs”. “I told him that his primary duty is to explain our just cause to the world. Of course he is interested with the negotiations”, he argued and added: “There are some things which I do not adopt. Mr Nami had been Mr Talat’s special representative for five years. He has some habits remained from that period and some friendships established then. To which extent this is right should be debated. Holding meetings within my knowledge is something, holding meetings and exchanging messages outside my knowledge is something else. There is news coming in this direction…”

Then this, originally from Afrika...

"... Under the title “Behold the Turkish document”, Turkish Cypriot daily Afrika newspaper (20.12.13) reports that it reveals today the backstage of Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoglu’s illegal visit to the occupied area of the Republic of Cyprus. The paper argues that Davutoglu came to the island after reaching an agreement with Britain and Greece on a document, which would be submitted to the Greek Cypriot side as a Turkish proposal. According to the paper, Davutoglu put this paper in front of the Turkish Cypriot leader Eroglu and said: “Either we like it or not, there could be no objection to this”. .."