kurupetos wrote:Paphitis wrote:kurupetos wrote:Paphitis wrote:You need to be on the level in your postings!
Personally, I honestly do not mind. It is actually quite fascinating to discover that Greece and its history is extensively connected to this strange and mysterious fraternity. Greece has a lot in common with the US as both gained independence from revolutions sparked from within the inner circles of Freemasonry. Yes it is quite fascinating.
Clergy, Patriarchs, Royalty, Prime Ministers and Presidents were Freemasons. Very significant historical figures were part of the fraternity as was and perhaps still is with the US. Even Lord Byron and Kapodistrias!
Much more interesting than flying in a dead kele for an avgolemoni feast!
Those you mention realised they could become more powerful if they pretended they were freemasons, but later it became obvious that they only used those Zionist organizations temporarily.
The Zionists murdered both Kapodistrias and Metaxas, which proves they were not really pro-Zionists.
That's a first I heard of Freemasonry being connected to Zionists!You need to square with me and admit that Greece has a proud Masonic Inheritance and even the Filiki Eteria was Masonic.
It all pretty much makes sense now. This is the reason why the Greek Orthodox Turkish Collaborators had to fabricate history in order to place the Church in prominent roles (even though they aided the Ottomans) and downplay Greece's Masonic Inheritance which actually prepared Greeks and sparked the Revolution against the Ottomans.
You have a lot to learn, koala cohabitant.
I don't disagree with the origins of Filiki Eteria. Obviously Zionists wanted the destruction of the Ottoman Empire at the time.
Greek Orthodox Turkish Collaborators? OK, that's a dose of your usual bollocks.
The fact is Church kept Christian religion, and Greek culture and language alive throughout the Ottoman period.
And that is why GR! is forced to have Greek as his native language nowadays.
Oh dear! You seemed to have stepped in it my little minion.
Now why are you saying that the Hellenes were infiltrated by Zionists? Since Freemasonry is associated with power and money, could it be that the Hellenes were easily bought or corrupted? This is not my position, I just ask you to explain yourself whilst I am looking at the big hole you dug for yourself.
At the same time, you say the Freemasons may have wanted to destroy the Ottoman Empire. Are you saying that the Ottomans could not be infiltrated or corrupted?
And since they wanted the Ottoman Empire destroyed, why not infiltrate the Mountain Turks (Kurds) and the Armenians. Obviously they could not infiltrate or corrupt them either.
It seems Greece owes far more to Freemasonry than it does to the traitorous GO Church! Why? I will get into that. They are big on symbology! You just need to look at the city plans of Washington DC to understand this.
For centuries,
the GO Church was responsibly for taxing Greeks into oblivion, and when they could not pay, their lands would be
confiscated. The GO Church was
rewarded handsomely for all this betrayal, hence it is the biggest land owner in Greece and Cyprus today. This probably explains why the Hellenes could be infiltrated by Freemason Europe. Obviously, they were willing to help destroy the Ottoman Empire by helping to spark the revolution in 1821. No surprises there. Obviously the Freemasons wanted to also destroy the British Empire. They did the same thing in America. You have not thought it through properly!
It also explains why Greek text books are controlled by the GO Church through the Ministry of Education. Please revisit the debate when his Beastitude was most irate when Christofias decided to cut all Orthodox Church influence in establishing the Cypriot Schools Curriculum.
The Church obviously needed to
rewrite history to cover up its role during the Ottoman years. Hence all the bollocks about hidden schools and the dance of death (proven fabrications) and so forth!
One thing the Greek text books neglect to mention is the fact that Metropolitan Germanos raised a Masonic symbol alongside the Revolutionary Greek Flag in 1821. What's the go with this?
One more thing, why are you saying that the GO Church is responsible for getting the Greeks to maintain their language and culture? Are you saying that they would otherwise be incapable of doing this? Personally, I believe Greek families would have maintained their language and culture regardless despite being taxed into oblivion by the GO Church. Greek Mothers can be very nurturing despite the poverty and finding it difficult to put food on the table thanks to the Ottomans and GO Church collaboration.
Also, please look up Zionism. You need to learn the true definition. Freemasonry was all over Europe and was actually revived in England where there were no Jews or Zionists to even mention. It then spread to North America and Australia. Again no Zionists there. It does however seem to have a disproportionate amount of wealth and power wherever it has gone, including Greece.
Now please stop insulting Greece and Hellenism!