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[lysi]

I lost several members of my family in the invasion, we lost all are land and were kicked out of are houses by the turkish army, also my uncle is still listed as missing.
Now homes for british people have been built on our land and the greedy british based estate agents are making money from the land that was stolen from us.
When will the greek cypriots do what i do and complain to these greedy estate agents who are making matters worse for a settlement.
Phone, email or confront in person these thieves and i bet they will become reluctant to deal in our land.

[Anglo]

Full respect to you and your family and condolences for your experiences. But why don't you exhort people to pressure the governments concerned to come to a solution so that your losses can be repaired or compensated? Surely bugging a few salespeople is not the intelligent way to achieve your aims.

[Piratis]

Surely bugging a few salespeople is not the intelligent way to achieve your aims.

I agree. What you should to is sue them, along with the people that buy property from them.

[Anglo]

Why not? If there is a legal remedy that an impartial court can enforce then it make sense to use it. And at the same time pressure should be applied to politicians to represent the people not the politicians self-serving careers.

[lysi]

ANGLO, are you saying it is ok to profit from other peoples loss ? These greedy british based estate agents are selling off the land and property that was stolen from thousands of g/cypriots, why should we sit back and keep quite.

[lysi]

ANGLO, are you saying it is ok to profit from other peoples loss ? These greedy british based estate agents are selling off the land and property that was stolen from thousands of g/cypriots, why should we sit back and keep quite.
The north is occupied i cant get my hands on my land .

[Anglo]

The trouble is that there is a reality in the north - an independent, albeit unrecognised state, that exists, survives, and that will get stronger. People there are living their lives irrespective of the political games played in the corridors of power. The vast majority of investors or expats have purchased property in the last two years. Before that there was no interest in buying in North Cyprus. The imminent solution and accession to the EU that everyone expected made the property market boom, just as it did in all the new EU states admitted recently.

Nobody investing thinks that they are committing an 'immoral crime' - it has been 32 years since partition. If it was yesterday that the original owners of property had left then people may have had a different perspective - take Kosovo for example. The fact is that most investors have looked at the probability of a settlement where there is massive land redistribution as unlikely, given the realities on the ground, and they believe that in the event of a settlement compensation will be paid - either by themselves or by the authorities. If you are an astute investor prepared to take a calculated risk then North Cyprus look like a very good bet.

[Kifeas]

Rubbish!!!

[Alexis]

The fact remains that despite the realities on the ground the TRNC is not an internationally recognised country and remains in its present form an illegal state.

The permanent re-distribution of refugee land by the TRNC, i.e. their so-called TRNC 'title-deeds', is illegal. The selling of refugee land to third parties (whether they be settlers or foreigners) has been internationally condemned in countless UN resolutions for a number of years now and is illegal. In fact, everything the TRNC does is illegal by definition.

In the event of a comprehensive settlement the only valid title deeds in Northern Cyprus will be those issued by the RoC pre-1974. Cases of land that cannot be returned to refugees can only be dealt with by the provisions of that comprehensive settlement. This will, as has been said be in the form of compensation. The big question: who will pay that compensation? The more the TRNC allows these illegal dealings in refugee land, the worse this problem becomes.

[zan]

The fact remains that despite the realities on the ground the TRNC is not an internationally recognised country and remains in its present form an illegal state.

The permanent re-distribution of refugee land by the TRNC, i.e. their so-called TRNC 'title-deeds', is illegal. The selling of refugee land to third parties (whether they be settlers or foreigners) has been internationally condemned in countless UN resolutions for a number of years now and is illegal. In fact, everything the TRNC does is illegal by definition.

In the event of a comprehensive settlement the only valid title deeds in Northern Cyprus will be those issued by the RoC pre-1974. Cases of land that cannot be returned to refugees can only be dealt with by the provisions of that comprehensive settlement. This will, as has been said be in the form of compensation. The big question: who will pay that compensation? The more the TRNC allows these illegal dealings in refugee land, the worse this problem becomes.

Exactly Alexis. I just don’t understand why people cannot get this. The TRNC is like a bubble in time every thing that goes on inside is legal only to them and Turkey. It is also true that nothing on the outside can be enforced without the use of force or a settlement. Going to the European courts will achieve nothing but a useless court judgement that can only be enforced if the TRNC is recognised. Although once recognised it will probably mean that all the applications will have to be resubmitted to the new courts of the TRNC. These are exactly the kind of problems that I envisaged for the GCs that will only bring years and years of heartache. I believe that every one of them, and every one of the TCs, should be compensated now so that we can move on.