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by **B25** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:24 pm

Just because i leave my car unlocked, it doesn't give anyone the right to take it. The fault is with the thief. Cyorus was left unlocked and the scumbag thief, aka Turkey, came and took it. The blame is totally upon the scumbag Turks. End of.

by **Maximus** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:30 pm

miltiades wrote:There is no doubt as to who is to blame for giving Turkey the opportunity to fulfil her plans of partitioning the island.

The blame lies squarely on the extreme elements of G/Cs who never gave up on the Enosis idea.

Aided and encouraged by the Greek Junta they staged the coup against Makarios whom they saw as an obstacle to their plans of Enosis. Makarios, although not by any means a brilliant statesman, was nevertheless a wise leader who recognized realities and embraced Independence as opposed to Enosis.

Had he remained in power by crushing the coup, Turkey would have no reasonable legitimate reasons to invade our island.

Wasn't that the majority of the population at the time who wanted enosis with Greece? I thought the idea of enosis was forfeited for "independence" after 1960 but there was a new threat to sustain the fighting. None the less, if it wasn't for the coup, Turkey would have found another excuse or opportunity to invade and TAKSIM the northern third of the island to "protect her underbelly" since she could no longer control it.

B25 is right,

Alternatively, Greek Cypriots would not be living in a "modern and prosperous", democratic and free society today but more like slaves to the Turks via their TC proxy. All of Cyprus would have a character that resembles Turkey's or the "TRNC".

by **Cap** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:49 pm

So the child molester snatched the baby and molested it.
Guilty! kidnapping/child abduction/molestation

The mother was unfit to care for the baby, high on drugs and incompetent she left the baby unattended while it was being abducted.
Guilty! child abuse/ neglect

The baby grew up with emotional problems and an identity crisis.
Both perpetrators remain unpunished.

End of.

by **Get Real!** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:05 pm

I wonder how many of those who think Greece should be let off the hook or Greece is innocent of the 1974 debacle, are refugees and were present throughout the hostilities...

by **Maximus** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:06 pm

or, the "child" was given to the wrong "father" in the beginning and the mother went to take it back, then the "father", molested it.

by **Maximus** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:I wonder how many of those who think Greece should be let off the hook or Greece is innocent of the 1974 debacle, are refugees and were present throughout the hostilities...

so far, everyone has been let of the hook and I support the right's of the refugees to return.

by **GreekIslandGirl** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:27 pm

What is this metaphorical "hook" going to do to Greece? And how does it help us now or in the future?

Greece punished the perpetrators and we punished one (?) from hundreds who rose up against our President and fought on the side of the junta. It was the wrong way. It gave our enemy, Turkey, the second chance it needed to complete what it attempted in 1964. The TCs said YES to Turkey. Unfortunately, they had a loud voice ...

by **Maximus** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:34 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:What is this metaphorical "hook" going to do to Greece? And how does it help us now or in the future?

Greece punished the perpetrators and we punished one (?) from hundreds who rose up against our President and fought on the side of the junta. It was the wrong way. It gave our enemy, Turkey, the second chance it needed to complete what it attempted in 1964. The TCs said YES to Turkey. Unfortunately, they had a voice ...

I would also like to know, from those who blame Greece, what a suitable punishment is for Greece?

So we punish Greece and then also expect Greece to fight for us, to liberate Cyprus for us too?

by **miltiades** » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:10 pm

NO, We do not punish Greece, we embrace our very own ETHNOS, CYPRIOTS.
To hell with the erroneously perceived motherlands, the curses of MY Motherland, the island of Cyprus.

I have not the slightest inclination to consider Greece as my motherland, in doing so I deny my Cyprus.