Paphitis wrote:Hasanyone heard of GD leader Malakakios or whatever his name is?
He seems to be awfully quiet now which is most unusual for him!
Who's Hasan?
Paphitis wrote:Hasanyone heard of GD leader Malakakios or whatever his name is?
He seems to be awfully quiet now which is most unusual for him!
kurupetos wrote:Paphitis wrote:Hasanyone heard of GD leader Malakakios or whatever his name is?
He seems to be awfully quiet now which is most unusual for him!
Who's Hasan?
Paphitis wrote:Hasanyone heard of GD leader Malakakios or whatever his name is?
He seems to be awfully quiet now which is most unusual for him!
Paphitis wrote:Bloody no chance UKIP will betray Britain. They are real British Nationalists not NAZI traitors!
The alliance of the Greek Communist Party (KKE) with the Nazis in 1940.
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By 1940, the Security police had proved extremely successful in dismantling the KKE organization; not only had it imprisoned the leadership, but it created a fake series of Rizospastis, the Central Committee newspaper. This generated confusion among the remaining scattered underground members.[19][20]
Around this time a small group of old party officials formed the "Old Central Committee". Two of them were elected by the 6th Conference.[21] In his memoirs for the Greek Civil war, C. M. Woodhouse (the British liaison with Greek resistance groups during WWII) wrote: "The 'Old Central Committee' interpreted a directive issued by Comintern as indicating collaboration with the German and Italian dictatorships, given the Hitler-Stalin alliance.".[22] On the other hand, Woodhouse argues, Georgios Siantos, who had escaped from prison, and Nikos Zachariadis, who was still incarcerated, took the opposite view that KKE must support Metaxas in his fight against Mussolini.[22] The archives of KKE [23] also address the confusion between different KKE cadres; the "Old Committee" interpreted the politics of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy as part of the "imperialistic game between the Axis forces and the British." This faction of KKE felt that the Metaxas regime was a "pawn of British imperialism in the region," [24] and, therefore, the "Old Committee" viewed any war between the Axis forces and the British as an "...imperialistic war that the people of any of the countries involved should not participate in...".
According to KKE's account, this position was criticized by Comintern in 1939 (a few months after the Soviet-German Non-Aggression Pact), which had instructed KKE to fight against Italy in the event of an invasion of Greece.[25][26]
Nikos Zachariadis, KKE General Secretary, wrote from prison on 2 November 1940: "Today the Greek people are waging a war of national liberation against Mussolini's fascism. In this war we must follow the Metaxas government and turn every city, every village and every house of Greece into a stronghold of the National Liberation Fight... On this war conducted by Metaxas government all of us should give all our forces without reservation. The working people's and the crowning achievement for today's fight should be and shall be a new Greece based on work, freedom, and liberated from any foreign imperialist dependence, with a truly pan-popular culture."[27][28]
Several party members, including Nikos Ploumpidis of the "Old Central Committee", denounced this letter as a forgery produced by the Metaxas regime.[29][30] Zachariadis was even accused of writing it to win the favor of Konstantinos Maniadakis, the Minister for Public Order, to win his release from prison.[14] According to one source when drafting this letter Zachariadis was unaware of the Soviet-German Non-Aggression Pact, and was castigated by the Comintern for an anti-Soviet stance.[31]
According to KKE's archives, the "Old Central Committee" had been denounced for its stance on the war issue; today KKE claims that the majority of the party membership had not followed the decision of being neutral in case of an invasion.[32][33] On 16 November 1940, Zachariadis repudiated the line of his first letter in a second letter where he accused the Greek Army of waging a "fascist" and "imperialistic war" (!!) and appealed to the USSR for peaceful intervention,[34][35] thus aligning his position with that of the "Old Central Committee".[29]
On 7 December 1940, the "Old Central Committee" issued a manifesto addressed "to all the workers and public servants, to all soldiers, sailors and airmen, to patriot officers, to the mothers, fathers, wives and children of the fighters and the workers of all neighboring countries", in which it describes the war as a game of the imperialist powers, headed by the British. According to KKE, the "Old Central Committee" based this opinion on the belief that Mussolini's Italy would not dare to attack a country that had a cooperation agreement with the Soviet Union. The main political line of this manifesto was the call to the soldiers on the front not to go beyond Greek borders, but after securing them to try seek a peace agreement with the enemy.[36]
Zachariadis may have issued a third letter on 17 January 1941, in which he explained the motives for his first letter and wrote: "Metaxas remains the principal enemy of the people and the country. His overthrowing is in the most immediate and vital interest of our people ... the peoples and soldiers of Greece and Italy are not enemies but brothers, and their solidarity will stop the war waged by capitalist exploiters."[31]
According to KKE archives, Zachariadis had issued no further letters, and the third letter may have been in fact the statement of the "Old Central Committee" of 18 March 1941.[37] In any case, Zachariadis himself referred in his public statements after liberation almost exclusively to his first letter as proof of the patriotic character of KKE and its role as an inspiration to the Greek resistance movement during the war.
On 22 June 1941, the very same day that Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, KKE ordered its militants to organize "the struggle to defend the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the foreign fascist yoke".[29][34]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_ ... reece#1940
miltiades wrote:British politicians of all parties have consistently lied to the British people.
kimon07 wrote:Paphitis wrote:Bloody no chance UKIP will betray Britain. They are real British Nationalists not NAZI traitors!
Speaking of traitors and collaborators of the Nazis/Fascists:The alliance of the Greek Communist Party (KKE) with the Nazis in 1940.
…………………………
By 1940, the Security police had proved extremely successful in dismantling the KKE organization; not only had it imprisoned the leadership, but it created a fake series of Rizospastis, the Central Committee newspaper. This generated confusion among the remaining scattered underground members.[19][20]
Around this time a small group of old party officials formed the "Old Central Committee". Two of them were elected by the 6th Conference.[21] In his memoirs for the Greek Civil war, C. M. Woodhouse (the British liaison with Greek resistance groups during WWII) wrote: "The 'Old Central Committee' interpreted a directive issued by Comintern as indicating collaboration with the German and Italian dictatorships, given the Hitler-Stalin alliance.".[22] On the other hand, Woodhouse argues, Georgios Siantos, who had escaped from prison, and Nikos Zachariadis, who was still incarcerated, took the opposite view that KKE must support Metaxas in his fight against Mussolini.[22] The archives of KKE [23] also address the confusion between different KKE cadres; the "Old Committee" interpreted the politics of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy as part of the "imperialistic game between the Axis forces and the British." This faction of KKE felt that the Metaxas regime was a "pawn of British imperialism in the region," [24] and, therefore, the "Old Committee" viewed any war between the Axis forces and the British as an "...imperialistic war that the people of any of the countries involved should not participate in...".
According to KKE's account, this position was criticized by Comintern in 1939 (a few months after the Soviet-German Non-Aggression Pact), which had instructed KKE to fight against Italy in the event of an invasion of Greece.[25][26]
Nikos Zachariadis, KKE General Secretary, wrote from prison on 2 November 1940: "Today the Greek people are waging a war of national liberation against Mussolini's fascism. In this war we must follow the Metaxas government and turn every city, every village and every house of Greece into a stronghold of the National Liberation Fight... On this war conducted by Metaxas government all of us should give all our forces without reservation. The working people's and the crowning achievement for today's fight should be and shall be a new Greece based on work, freedom, and liberated from any foreign imperialist dependence, with a truly pan-popular culture."[27][28]
Several party members, including Nikos Ploumpidis of the "Old Central Committee", denounced this letter as a forgery produced by the Metaxas regime.[29][30] Zachariadis was even accused of writing it to win the favor of Konstantinos Maniadakis, the Minister for Public Order, to win his release from prison.[14] According to one source when drafting this letter Zachariadis was unaware of the Soviet-German Non-Aggression Pact, and was castigated by the Comintern for an anti-Soviet stance.[31]
According to KKE's archives, the "Old Central Committee" had been denounced for its stance on the war issue; today KKE claims that the majority of the party membership had not followed the decision of being neutral in case of an invasion.[32][33] On 16 November 1940, Zachariadis repudiated the line of his first letter in a second letter where he accused the Greek Army of waging a "fascist" and "imperialistic war" (!!) and appealed to the USSR for peaceful intervention,[34][35] thus aligning his position with that of the "Old Central Committee".[29]
On 7 December 1940, the "Old Central Committee" issued a manifesto addressed "to all the workers and public servants, to all soldiers, sailors and airmen, to patriot officers, to the mothers, fathers, wives and children of the fighters and the workers of all neighboring countries", in which it describes the war as a game of the imperialist powers, headed by the British. According to KKE, the "Old Central Committee" based this opinion on the belief that Mussolini's Italy would not dare to attack a country that had a cooperation agreement with the Soviet Union. The main political line of this manifesto was the call to the soldiers on the front not to go beyond Greek borders, but after securing them to try seek a peace agreement with the enemy.[36]
Zachariadis may have issued a third letter on 17 January 1941, in which he explained the motives for his first letter and wrote: "Metaxas remains the principal enemy of the people and the country. His overthrowing is in the most immediate and vital interest of our people ... the peoples and soldiers of Greece and Italy are not enemies but brothers, and their solidarity will stop the war waged by capitalist exploiters."[31]
According to KKE archives, Zachariadis had issued no further letters, and the third letter may have been in fact the statement of the "Old Central Committee" of 18 March 1941.[37] In any case, Zachariadis himself referred in his public statements after liberation almost exclusively to his first letter as proof of the patriotic character of KKE and its role as an inspiration to the Greek resistance movement during the war.
On 22 June 1941, the very same day that Hitler attacked the Soviet Union, KKE ordered its militants to organize "the struggle to defend the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the foreign fascist yoke".[29][34]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_ ... reece#1940
Summary:
For as long as the Soviets had a non agression pact with Hitler, the KKE was calling upon the Greek people and the armed forces not to fight but to surrender (make peace with the invading enemy).
As soon as Hitler attacked the USSR, the KKE issued an announcement asking the Greeks to fight for the integrity of the Soviet Union, NOT for the liberation of Greece.
Conclusion:
The so called “resistance” of the KKE against the Germans during the occupation was nothing more than a struggle to get Greece out of the hands of the Nazis and hand it over to Stalin. That explains why they were staging more attacks against other (non communist) Greek resistance groups (Psaros- EDES) than against the Germans and the Italians. That, also, explains why they turned a blind eye to the massacres of Greek civilians committed by the Bulgarians and the Albanians.
These treasonous snakes are today considered to be forming the so-called “Demoratic Bowe and arrow
Paphitis wrote: Man I feel insulted you would think I support KKE/AKEL...
kimon07 wrote:Paphitis wrote: Man I feel insulted you would think I support KKE/AKEL...
Man.., do you really think me or any one else gives a damn about what YOU support? What YOU support is irrelevant. I was talking about Greek political parties which betrayed Greece by cooperatring with or supporting the Nazis and/or other foreign authoritarian regimes/powers (Italy-Germany-the Soviet Union-Bulgaria-Albani) which intended to enslave Greece under their tyrannies and to annex parts of it and which butchered the Greek people in the process and destroyed the country completely.
I was talking about the criminal gang (KKE) which supported and asisted above tryrannies to achieve their goals and which massacred Greeks in its affort to gain power and submit Greece, after WW2, to the Soviet slavery. Got it man? Doubt it. It takes common sense to understand simple things. And basic knowlege of historical facts.
Paphitis wrote:kimon07 wrote:Paphitis wrote: Man I feel insulted you would think I support KKE/AKEL...
Man.., do you really think me or any one else gives a damn about what YOU support? What YOU support is irrelevant. I was talking about Greek political parties which betrayed Greece by cooperatring with or supporting the Nazis and/or other foreign authoritarian regimes/powers (Italy-Germany-the Soviet Union-Bulgaria-Albani) which intended to enslave Greece under their tyrannies and to annex parts of it and which butchered the Greek people in the process and destroyed the country completely.
I was talking about the criminal gang (KKE) which supported and asisted above tryrannies to achieve their goals and which massacred Greeks in its affort to gain power and submit Greece, after WW2, to the Soviet slavery. Got it man? Doubt it. It takes common sense to understand simple things. And basic knowlege of historical facts.
I spit on KKE and GD and any other forces who undermine Greece or Cyprus!
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