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[Flying Horse]

Well I'm looking at a half Cypriot kid that is darker than his full Cypriot father.

In fact his father is so pale, I think he needs sunlight so he doesn't look like a Scotsman of the west coast. !! His mother was pale, his father dark. It means NOWT.

I've read some twaddle in my life but really.... It's blatantly obvious Maria bears no resemblance to her Roma parents, but that in Ireland is a grave unfortunate mistake. My son looks nowt like me, or my eldest son whatsoever. Many many people have commented on his colouring if his father isn't present with us. Me and the eldest look of Nordic descent, the youngest is quite obviously not.

Just because someone doesn't look similar doesn't always mean they aren't related. Whatever next....carry your kids birth certificate with you at all times to prove they are yours??

[GreekIslandGirl]

Well I'm looking at a half Cypriot kid that is darker than his full Cypriot father.

In fact his father is so pale, I think he needs sunlight so he doesn't look like a Scotsman of the west coast. !! His mother was pale, his father dark. It means NOWT.

I've read some twaddle in my life but really.... It's blatantly obvious Maria bears no resemblance to her Roma parents, but that in Ireland is a grave unfortunate mistake. My son looks nowt like me, or my eldest son whatsoever. Many many people have commented on his colouring if his father isn't present with us. Me and the eldest look of Nordic descent, the youngest is quite obviously not.

Just because someone doesn't look similar doesn't always mean they aren't related. Whatever next....carry your kids birth certificate with you at all times to prove they are yours??

Birth certificates can be forged. Your DNA match is your only comeback.

As I said to stpier, it's more than just skin colour. I'm sure between the two parents, you and hubby, there will be some similar features to each of your sons. In the unknown situation, what the Greek Police cleverly did was weigh up a number of factors, which the Irish Police probably failed to consider. Neither Romani parent looked at all like the child, not just in colouration but predominant facial characteristics. Then they asked for personal details; which they assessed as contradictory. Then they checked birth certificates which again were iffy. And finally did a DNA test which was conclusive. Brilliant. Tempered. Sensible and sensitive. Their procedure should become a blueprint for other forces to follow - before we end up with some crazy witch-hunts from the more racist countries.

[bill cobbett]

Er... on the matter of the girl in the Republic of Ireland...

DNA tests have been carried out and they confirm the girl's parents are the couple from whom she was removed.

False alarm, appearances can be deceptive.

[kimon07]

Er... on the matter of the girl in the Republic of Ireland...

DNA tests have been carried out and they confirm the girl's parents are the couple from whom she was removed.

Yes. And now the police are reprimanded for having removed it for a couple of days. And then, if the police avoid to take action in any future similar case fearing consequences in the event of a mistake, they will be blamed for not acting promptly.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Er... on the matter of the girl in the Republic of Ireland...

DNA tests have been carried out and they confirm the girl's parents are the couple from whom she was removed.

False alarm, appearances can be deceptive.

They should have followed the Greek procedure and not relied purely on appearances. And why did it take them so long to establish the DNA results? They could have results in hours, not days!

- But this muck-up proves how brilliantly the Greek Police behaved - hence a little praise is due.

[bill cobbett]

Er... on the matter of the girl in the Republic of Ireland...

DNA tests have been carried out and they confirm the girl's parents are the couple from whom she was removed.

False alarm, appearances can be deceptive.

They should have followed the Greek procedure and not relied purely on appearances. And why did it take them so long to establish the DNA results? They could have results in hours, not days!

- But this muck-up proves how brilliantly the Greek Police behaved - hence a little praise is due.

The results of the tests referred to in the case of the Irish girl were reported days ago.

[Paphitis]

Er... on the matter of the girl in the Republic of Ireland...

DNA tests have been carried out and they confirm the girl's parents are the couple from whom she was removed.

False alarm, appearances can be deceptive.

They should have followed the Greek procedure and not relied purely on appearances. And why did it take them so long to establish the DNA results? They could have results in hours, not days!

- But this muck-up proves how brilliantly the Greek Police behaved - hence a little praise is due.

There is no such thing as a Greek Procedure.

There is only the local jurisdiction of The Republic of Ireland and the police acted appropriately until such time as would permit them to conduct DNA tests. Maybe they needed a judicial warrant from a Magistrate.

DNA testing occurs in many jurisdictions, and I do not believe the Greek Police are any model for other countries to follow.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Er... on the matter of the girl in the Republic of Ireland...

DNA tests have been carried out and they confirm the girl's parents are the couple from whom she was removed.

False alarm, appearances can be deceptive.

They should have followed the Greek procedure and not relied purely on appearances. And why did it take them so long to establish the DNA results? They could have results in hours, not days!

- But this muck-up proves how brilliantly the Greek Police behaved - hence a little praise is due.

The results of the tests referred to in the case of the Irish girl were reported days ago.

Yes, I know, but they still held the family apart for a few days before they got the DNA results and sadly meanwhile reported the case to the papers. I believe they went purely by looks unlike the case of the Greek Police who also questioned and checked certificates whilst meanwhile also carrying out DNA tests before making a case. Their procedure should become a blueprint for such searches as it works.

[bill cobbett]

Er... on the matter of the girl in the Republic of Ireland...

DNA tests have been carried out and they confirm the girl's parents are the couple from whom she was removed.

False alarm, appearances can be deceptive.

They should have followed the Greek procedure and not relied purely on appearances. And why did it take them so long to establish the DNA results? They could have results in hours, not days!

- But this muck-up proves how brilliantly the Greek Police behaved - hence a little praise is due.

The results of the tests referred to in the case of the Irish girl were reported days ago.

Yes, I know, but they still held the family apart for a few days before they got the DNA results and sadly meanwhile reported the case to the papers. I believe they went purely by looks unlike the case of the Greek Police who also questioned and checked certificates whilst meanwhile also carrying out DNA tests before making a case. Their procedure should become a blueprint for such searches as it works.

The authorities in Ireland did act to check documents and hospital birth records and found discrepancies.

[Paphitis]

Er... on the matter of the girl in the Republic of Ireland...

DNA tests have been carried out and they confirm the girl's parents are the couple from whom she was removed.

False alarm, appearances can be deceptive.

They should have followed the Greek procedure and not relied purely on appearances. And why did it take them so long to establish the DNA results? They could have results in hours, not days!

- But this muck-up proves how brilliantly the Greek Police behaved - hence a little praise is due.

The results of the tests referred to in the case of the Irish girl were reported days ago.

Yes, I know, but they still held the family apart for a few days before they got the DNA results and sadly meanwhile reported the case to the papers. I believe they went purely by looks unlike the case of the Greek Police who also questioned and checked certificates whilst meanwhile also carrying out DNA tests before making a case. Their procedure should become a blueprint for such searches as it works.

That is completely false as proven by my previous sources.

The questioned, asked for papers, and took the child away under Child Welfare and Proetection laws in order to investigate further because they were not satisfied with the answers they got nor were they able to verify the facts as they even checked birth records from the hospital.