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[Viewpoint]

Then it will no problem for you to post the link so that we can analyze exactly what he saying. Do you actually understand that we do not have to agree with your demands thats why compromise is in order, or are you intend on continuing with same mindset of trying to force your demands on us....if thst the case then 50 years have taught you nothing.

Try and understand there can be no solution and no compromise if the Turkish strategy is not to make compromises in order to collapse the talks and push for a two-state solution. Everyone knows this is Turkey's game. Are you really so naive to think otherwise?

Here is the link you are looking for:

http://lemoncy.eu/authors_article_detail.php?Vid=24

And the GC strategy is to agree what exactly, it appears they are pushing for a unitary state with the TCs as a powerless minority.....who do you think you are kidding?

[Me Ed]

Then it will no problem for you to post the link so that we can analyze exactly what he saying. Do you actually understand that we do not have to agree with your demands thats why compromise is in order, or are you intend on continuing with same mindset of trying to force your demands on us....if thst the case then 50 years have taught you nothing.

Try and understand there can be no solution and no compromise if the Turkish strategy is not to make compromises in order to collapse the talks and push for a two-state solution. Everyone knows this is Turkey's game. Are you really so naive to think otherwise?

Here is the link you are looking for:

http://lemoncy.eu/authors_article_detail.php?Vid=24

And the GC strategy is to agree what exactly, it appears they are pushing for a unitary state with the TCs as a powerless minority.....who do you think you are kidding?

I'd believe you VP if there was such a thing as a TC.

[Demonax]

Then it will no problem for you to post the link so that we can analyze exactly what he saying. Do you actually understand that we do not have to agree with your demands thats why compromise is in order, or are you intend on continuing with same mindset of trying to force your demands on us....if thst the case then 50 years have taught you nothing.

Try and understand there can be no solution and no compromise if the Turkish strategy is not to make compromises in order to collapse the talks and push for a two-state solution. Everyone knows this is Turkey's game. Are you really so naive to think otherwise?

Here is the link you are looking for:

http://lemoncy.eu/authors_article_detail.php?Vid=24

And the GC strategy is to agree what exactly, it appears they are pushing for a unitary state with the TCs as a powerless minority.....who do you think you are kidding?

Where does it say that in the article? He talks about concessions that GCs have made for a federal solution while in the meantime Turkey is refusing to address concessions it needs to make on issues that are crucial to GCs.

Instead of addressing the argument you go into your usual stupid knee-jerk response whenever someone exposes Turkey's real intentions. Only this time you made a foolish error. This was a criticism from a respected and well-placed TC journalist!

Don't you feel just a bit silly now?

[Demonax]

I'd believe you VP if there was such a thing as a TC.

[Viewpoint]

demon are you aware that we do not see eye to eye on many issues especially the thorny issues as detailed in Niyazis article, if we did then there would be no problem left, thats why another round of negotiations are about to start. You sound oblivious to this reality, what your leader says is what your side demands and does not mean that we have to accept it just as you do not accept what we propose, but the key to the whole process is compromise and understanding. For example I accept your fears of the Turkish Army and therefore compromise that they must leave but you do not accept my fears of security measures or getting rid of the Greek/GC Army in the south, you have over 100.000 armed reservists plus your current military, with Turkey out of the picture how do you think that makes us feel? Another example is your concerns over the settlers which we again accept and compromise by stating that we should treat them fairly and as humans by accepting a certain number that have truly set up their lives here on the island, 3rd generation settlers sure have rights.

Now can you please tell us how you intend to compromise in the running of a Federal Cyprus and what the effective role of the TCs will be? taking into our internationally recognized rights as per the 1960 agreements.

[Demonax]

demon are you aware that we do not see eye to eye on many issues especially the thorny issues as detailed in Niyazis article, if we did then there would be no problem left, thats why another round of negotiations are about to start.

Sorry, VP, but negotiations are not yet about to begin. As is clear from Niyazis article, Turkey is approaching the latest stage of planned talks in bad faith. This is why the GC side is insisting that Turkey sign an agreement that commits to a single Cypriot sovereignty, a single citizenship and a single international personality. Otherwise talks will inevitably fail. This might be what Turkey wants but there is no reason for GCs to go into talks knowing they are bound to lead nowhere.

[Lordo]

explain to me whats the chance of having an agreement if such a document is signed, you are some ass aint you.

cannot sign it because if there is no agreement by march it is over. two states from than on.

now do you get it.

[Demonax]

cannot sign it because if there is no agreement by march it is over. two states from than on.

now do you get it.

Yes, Lordo. We know that is Turkey's 'strategy'. Not very subtle is it? That is why without a commitment to a single sovereignty and a single citizenship there is no point in having talks. Why would the GCs accept a timetable that would lead to Turkey collapsing the talks in March and then demanding a two state solution?

Now do you get it?

[Maximus]

cannot sign it because if there is no agreement by march it is over. two states from than on.

now do you get it.

Yes, Lordo. We know that is Turkey's 'strategy'. Not very subtle is it? That is why without a commitment to a single sovereignty and a single citizenship there is no point in having talks. Why would the GCs accept a timetable that would lead to Turkey collapsing the talks in March and then demanding a two state solution?

Now do you get it?

You can bet your bottom dollar he does not.

[kurupetos]

explain to me whats the chance of having an agreement if such a document is signed, you are some ass aint you.

cannot sign it because if there is no agreement by march it is over. two states from than on.

now do you get it.

Why should you want an agreement then, if you can have partition and recognition anyway?