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Re: the end is in sight

Postby Jerry » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:11 pm

Talks about talks, disagreements about agreements, we just keep going around in circles. Isn’t it time a panel of genuinely independent international lawyers/judges was convened to forensically examine the Cyprus Problem its root cause and then suggest a fair and just solution. They should start with the Zurich Agreement, how it denied democracy to Cypriots and “legally” allowed third parties the right to intervene.

Cyprus was treated as a special case because the guarantor powers claimed to have interests in the island; their demands were met at great cost to the islands inhabitants. We can’t turn back the clock but the West should have balls to admit it messed up. It's time for internationally accepted norms of democracy and human rights to be applied to a solution not the endorsement of fait accomplis.

Cypriots are always accused of blaming others for “the Cyprus Problem”, they have good reason to.
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Re: the end is in sight

Postby Demonax » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:41 pm

According to Simerini the UN’s patience with TC 'negotiator' Ertug is wearing very thin. His attitude towards reaching an agreed text for talks to resume is described as ‘callous’ and ‘uncompromising’. This explains why resumption of talks are currently stuck in a ‘quagmire’ as the report describes it:

Article in Greek: http://www.sigmalive.com/simerini/polit ... 33gJ1Vc_bw
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Re: the end is in sight

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:59 pm

tick tock tick tock

you have you have 5.5 months left. get your finger out.
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Re: the end is in sight

Postby Jerry » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:40 pm

Lordo wrote:tick tock tick tock

you have you have 5.5 months left. get your finger out.


At a guess I would say that TC 'negotiator' Ertug has the same puerile mentality as yourself Lordo/YFred. What will happen after 5.5 months, more threats? Get it through your thick skull the annexation of the north will never be accepted by the international community, to do so could open the floodgates to all sorts of fragmentation and break-up of sovereign States.
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Re: the end is in sight

Postby kurupetos » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:43 pm

Lordo wrote:tick tock tick tock

you have you have 5.5 months left. get your finger out.

The time bomb is in Louroudjina. Wake up! :lol:
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Re: the end is in sight

Postby boulio » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:05 pm

Turkey dosent want the annexation of the north anyway.The turkish thesis was changed from 1964 forwatrd anyway from taksim to a weak confederal model in cyprus so it can be in turkeys sphere of influence.2004 WAS A HUGE year with cypriot eu entry that was a major blow to turkish hypothesis,another was gas finds in the south.ANother will be when a TRUE solution is found and cyprus enters A EU/NATO SECURITY SCHEME.
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Re: the end is in sight

Postby Jerry » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:17 pm

boulio wrote:Turkey dosent want the annexation of the north anyway.The turkish thesis was changed from 1964 forwatrd anyway from taksim to a weak confederal model in cyprus so it can be in turkeys sphere of influence.2004 WAS A HUGE year with cypriot eu entry that was a major blow to turkish hypothesis,another was gas finds in the south.ANother will be when a TRUE solution is found and cyprus enters A EU/NATO SECURITY SCHEME.


But Turkey HAS achieved taksim, illegal yes, but partition on the ground nevertheless. Had it wanted "a weak confederal model" it could have forced the issue in 1974.
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Re: the end is in sight

Postby boulio » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:42 pm

formal partition has never been discussed seriously,always half baked plans which at the end keeps turkey and to a lesser extent GB on the island and in greek cypriot affairs.
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Re: the end is in sight

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:26 pm

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Re: the end is in sight

Postby B25 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:59 pm


Vasiliou is full of shit, i wonder if he is now on a turkish payroll. What did he do when he was President? Yes that's right sweet FA.
Now he has all the answers. Our compromise is to allow the tcs to live in cyprus, nothing more. He should direct his words to Turkey not the GC population, who the f does he think he is? Traitors like this need shooting, period. Assholes!
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