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Re: Andımız

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:39 pm

This Andimiz business hasn't come out of the blue by the way.

It's a pretty big and very current story in Turkey.

This week saw the start of the school year and every school-child in Turkey had, as ever, to take the Oath.

In the Kurdish districts however, thousands of parents kept their children away from school in protest at the state requirement to take the oath and so hundreds of schools stayed shut.
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Re: Andımız

Postby stpier » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:36 pm

bill cobbett wrote:This Andimiz business hasn't come out of the blue by the way.

It's a pretty big and very current story in Turkey.

This week saw the start of the school year and every school-child in Turkey had, as ever, to take the Oath.

In the Kurdish districts however, thousands of parents kept their children away from school in protest at the state requirement to take the oath and so hundreds of schools stayed shut.


Another lie by the South Cypriot liar. Hundreds of schools did NOT stay shut. Greek anthem is a freedom for whom? Do you expect TCs to accept your Greek definition of freedom??? Why do you use another country's anthem????? Answer this :!:
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Re: Andımız

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:43 pm

stpier wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This Andimiz business hasn't come out of the blue by the way.

It's a pretty big and very current story in Turkey.

This week saw the start of the school year and every school-child in Turkey had, as ever, to take the Oath.

In the Kurdish districts however, thousands of parents kept their children away from school in protest at the state requirement to take the oath and so hundreds of schools stayed shut.


Another lie by the South Cypriot liar. Hundreds of schools did NOT stay shut. Greek anthem is a freedom for whom? Do you expect TCs to accept your Greek definition of freedom??? Why do you use another country's anthem????? Answer this :!:


So tell us Shitpriot from the la-la land of "trnc" ... how many schools stayed shut in the Failed State of Turkey-Kurdistan in protest at this obligatory oath-taking of the Andimiz... ???
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Re: Andımız

Postby DT. » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:40 pm

stpier wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
It's taken every day by school-children at the start of the school day in Turkey.

Question... Does this take place in "trnc" schools...???

Here's a version...

(those of you of a nervous disposition may wish to look away)



Why are you constantly spreading lies??? It's not taken every day, just once a week!!



:lol: thats ok then! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Andımız

Postby stpier » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:28 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
stpier wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:This Andimiz business hasn't come out of the blue by the way.

It's a pretty big and very current story in Turkey.

This week saw the start of the school year and every school-child in Turkey had, as ever, to take the Oath.

In the Kurdish districts however, thousands of parents kept their children away from school in protest at the state requirement to take the oath and so hundreds of schools stayed shut.


Another lie by the South Cypriot liar. Hundreds of schools did NOT stay shut. Greek anthem is a freedom for whom? Do you expect TCs to accept your Greek definition of freedom??? Why do you use another country's anthem????? Answer this :!:


So tell us Shitpriot from the la-la land of "trnc" ... how many schools stayed shut in the Failed State of Turkey-Kurdistan in protest at this obligatory oath-taking of the Andimiz... ???


Why do you use another country's anthem????? Answer this
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Re: Andımız

Postby DT. » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:52 pm

Even Rudyard Kipling tried to make it his own in English

We knew thee of old,
O, divinely restored,
By the lights of thine eyes,
And the light of thy Sword.
From the graves of our slain,
Shall thy valour prevail,
As we greet thee again,
Hail, Liberty! Hail!

Hymn to liberty should be used by more countries of the world.

Now tell us some more about the joy of being a turk and forcing millions of children to take an oath to some dead alcoholic?
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Re: Andımız

Postby stpier » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:47 pm

DT. wrote:Even Rudyard Kipling tried to make it his own in English

We knew thee of old,
O, divinely restored,
By the lights of thine eyes,
And the light of thy Sword.
From the graves of our slain,
Shall thy valour prevail,
As we greet thee again,
Hail, Liberty! Hail!

Hymn to liberty should be used by more countries of the world.

Now tell us some more about the joy of being a turk and forcing millions of children to take an oath to some dead alcoholic?


Those children are free from Greeks thanks to Atatürk.
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Re: Andımız

Postby bill cobbett » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:12 am

stpier wrote:
DT. wrote:Even Rudyard Kipling tried to make it his own in English

We knew thee of old,
O, divinely restored,
By the lights of thine eyes,
And the light of thy Sword.
From the graves of our slain,
Shall thy valour prevail,
As we greet thee again,
Hail, Liberty! Hail!

Hymn to liberty should be used by more countries of the world.

Now tell us some more about the joy of being a turk and forcing millions of children to take an oath to some dead alcoholic?


Those children are free from Greeks thanks to Atatürk.


Thousands of Kurdish children in hundreds of schools in Turkey have also been freed from Ataturk's Filthy Fascist Andimiz these past days...

From a Kurdish news-site...

" ... Last week, on the first day of scheduled classes in Turkey, thousands of Kurdish schoolchildren did not go to school. In fact, students in primary and secondary school boycotted the first week entirely to demand their right to education in their mother tongue. They were also boycotting Andımız, the Turkish oath ceremony, a nationalistic avowal of loyalty to Turkey and a veneration of “Turkishness”.

“I am Turk, I am honest, I am hard working,” the vow goes, “My principle is to protect the small, to respect the big, to love my country and my people more than I love myself.”

Students in primary school are compelled to recite the oath every day at the top of the morning. It’s meant as an affirmation of identity; an attempt to articulate “Turkishness” under a national selfhood. It’s one of many tools the Turkish government utilizes to further its national project of homogenizing Turkish identity. This homogenization, however, comes at the expense of minorities in Turkey — particularly the Kurdish minority, who read the Andımız not as an embrace of Turkey’s diverse cultural and ethnic landscape but as an erasure of any identity that deviates from mainstream national Turkishness. Reading the Andımız doesn’t just mean claiming their Turkish heritage — it requires they abandon their Kurdish one. For the Turkish government, these two identities are mutually exclusive — loyalty to one means a disavowal of the other. ... "


Are you an out-of-touch and lying little Turdish Shitpriot stpier. ... ???
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Re: Andımız

Postby bill cobbett » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:17 am

The same source reveals that Police in Plain Clothes have been touring schools to monitor the boycott...

" ... Plainclothes police officers have visited a number of schools across the city early in the morning and gathered information about the percentages of the participation in the boycott which has highly been supported at the M. Akif Ersoy High School and the Süphan Primary School where only 200 out of 1400 students took the classes yesterday.

The boycott has also been largely supported in the province of Hakkari where almost all the schools were empty on the first day of the education year, with teachers waiting inside empty schools as of early morning hours. The number of students who took to classes at the city center was less then a hundred.

Schools in Şemdinli, Yüksekova, as well as its Esendere and Büyükçiftlik towns were also empty yesterday. It was only staff and some teachers who went to schools.

Children in Şırnak and its Cizre district also joined the boycott which was supported by local people who staged a march and conveyed the signatures collected for mother tongue education to the director of national education..."


Are you keeping up stpier...???
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Re: Andımız

Postby stpier » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:37 am

Still no response: why do you use another country's anthem ??? An oath to loyalism for Greece.
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