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[Paphitis]

National Service? Is that what you call it?

You gotta know I was a volunteer and got in on merit in a Professional Standing Service. There were no mummies bringing Greek Dolmadakia.

But I guess you volunteered also.

And it is a bit rich comming from someone who goes to extraordinary lengths to tell Cypriots they are not Cypriot!

[kurupetos]

National Service? Is that what you call it?

You gotta know I was a volunteer and got in on merit in a Professional Standing Service. There were no mummies bringing Greek Dolmadakia.

But I guess you volunteered also.

And it is a bit rich comming from someone who goes to extraordinary lengths to tell Cypriots they are not Cypriot!

Volunteer? Were you an 'ethelontria', Paphitis?

[Flying Horse]

No, that's why I've put it up, for you to correct me on whats wrong with it

Sorry, have I put my big foot in something

No need to be coy. But it seems you did notice it needed "correcting".

But yes, there are issues around foreign-born observers of Cyprus for whom Greek and all its forms are a secondary language, who have never served their National Service, who are disinterested in Cyprus' long history except where it includes the Turks etc., telling the majority, native-born Cypriots what they are or are not.

No, I didn't, not at all.

In anything which is quoted from something found on the internet, I had a feeling..... there is 'always' someone to come and pick holes in what you find, dissect, argue, or disregard, or in Paphitis' case, back up the author of the text.

What I actually thought wrong-it was perhaps a little too neutral,( therefore fishy). But that's the point is it not.... Cypriots are Cypriots, not Greeks, not Turks, and certainly not British because they have a passport saying otherwise.

I'm here to learn. As an outsider with half Cypriot kids and an unknown family in Cyprus, it is very much in my interest to 'observe' and attempt to contribute(much to peoples amusement no doubt).

In the few short months I've been here on this forum, I've read a wealth of information from a bunch of intelligent and articulate people. Something which I really aren't in comparison, and most often I feel not worthy of posting a response.

Feel free to point and laugh at my ramblings

[GreekIslandGirl]

No, that's why I've put it up, for you to correct me on whats wrong with it

Sorry, have I put my big foot in something

No need to be coy. But it seems you did notice it needed "correcting".

But yes, there are issues around foreign-born observers of Cyprus for whom Greek and all its forms are a secondary language, who have never served their National Service, who are disinterested in Cyprus' long history except where it includes the Turks etc., telling the majority, native-born Cypriots what they are or are not.

No, I didn't, not at all.

In anything which is quoted from something found on the internet, I had a feeling..... there is 'always' someone to come and pick holes in what you find, dissect, argue, or disregard, or in Paphitis' case, back up the author of the text.

What I actually thought wrong-it was perhaps a little too neutral,( therefore fishy). But that's the point is it not.... Cypriots are Cypriots, not Greeks, not Turks, and certainly not British because they have a passport saying otherwise.

I'm here to learn. As an outsider with half Cypriot kids and an unknown family in Cyprus, it is very much in my interest to 'observe' and attempt to contribute(much to peoples amusement no doubt).

In the few short months I've been here on this forum, I've read a wealth of information from a bunch of intelligent and articulate people. Something which I really aren't in comparison, and most often I feel not worthy of posting a response.

Feel free to point and laugh at my ramblings

I wouldn't want to do that as I have not seen anything to ridicule posted by you.

The site, which you posted, is subversive precisely because it tries to appeal to the neutrality argument. But sometimes, as in the case of Cyprus, neutrality is not about giving equal weight to all the demands from every "community" that considers itself more worthy by virtue of its "minority status" which it wants to exalt by silencing the majority - something that site supports IMHO.

Cyprus' biggest enemy is the one which tries to silence the majority, the Greeks, that have fought for this island for thousands of years, against many invaders. We are the best custodians of the island - the loving natives.

[supporttheunderdog]

The Greeks should be included as invaders in a) about 1100 BC or so, And b) about 300 bc. Greekness is an old import , the language imposed by law in 300 bc

Some genetic evidence suggests that
A) at least on the matrilineal side the population has been fairly stable for 6000 years 2000 years before anything Greek can be identified,
B) Turkish speaking Cypriots of pre 74 ancestry and Greek speaking Cypriots are probably genetically very similar, more so than to either modern Greeks or Turks.
Cyprus' biggest enemy are Greek and Turkish wanabees who want to see Cyprus run from Athens or Ankara.

Oh and "g"IG will be more slithery than an eel, and try to put words in your argument or Create false meanings as i think we saw above.

[Paphitis]

No, that's why I've put it up, for you to correct me on whats wrong with it

Sorry, have I put my big foot in something

No need to be coy. But it seems you did notice it needed "correcting".

But yes, there are issues around foreign-born observers of Cyprus for whom Greek and all its forms are a secondary language, who have never served their National Service, who are disinterested in Cyprus' long history except where it includes the Turks etc., telling the majority, native-born Cypriots what they are or are not.

No, I didn't, not at all.

In anything which is quoted from something found on the internet, I had a feeling..... there is 'always' someone to come and pick holes in what you find, dissect, argue, or disregard, or in Paphitis' case, back up the author of the text.

What I actually thought wrong-it was perhaps a little too neutral,( therefore fishy). But that's the point is it not.... Cypriots are Cypriots, not Greeks, not Turks, and certainly not British because they have a passport saying otherwise.

I'm here to learn. As an outsider with half Cypriot kids and an unknown family in Cyprus, it is very much in my interest to 'observe' and attempt to contribute(much to peoples amusement no doubt).

In the few short months I've been here on this forum, I've read a wealth of information from a bunch of intelligent and articulate people. Something which I really aren't in comparison, and most often I feel not worthy of posting a response.

Feel free to point and laugh at my ramblings

I think you understand that "g"IG has an axe to grind with the author!

Those 2 have a long history and "g"IG has a long history of hissy fits against anyone who does not agree with her as you can see from her sledgehammer (not so subtle) attack on you just for posting a pretty valid website.

The site or its author are not subversive, although "g"IG will disagree because it mentions a great many uniquely Cypriot Words and incorporates Kibrilisi words (TC) which she does not consider to be native to the island hence her ramblings about neutrality (which you bought up).

She needs to be reminded that it is Turkey that does not want or need neutrality. From our end it is just semantics but certainly not subversive.

The author is not a subversive character, unlike "g"IG, but genuinely strives for a solution to the impass which the truth be told "g"IG also desires but just appears quite confused and sadly concentrates on the silly and absurd!

[Paphitis]

Cyprus' biggest enemy is the one which tries to silence the majority, the Greeks, that have fought for this island for thousands of years, against many invaders. We are the best custodians of the island - the loving natives.

Oh I see!

You mean the Cypriots obviously.

I can't recall a war where Greece actually fought for Cyprus since 1826, but incidentally, Australia has actually fought for Greece from thousands of miles away!

Ergo, doing National Service in Australia, is the same as serving the Greek Armed Forces!

[GreekIslandGirl]

Flying Horse, please ignore the roll call of trolls who have a history of erroneously summarizing invalid personal abuse just to get a reaction. They also like to generate bad vibes between others as they have nothing better to do. Misogyny is another commonality.

Stick to the topic please! My opinion of FH's site was posted to FH and is within the topic details. You opinions of me are not!

[Paphitis]

Flying Horse, please ignore the roll call of trolls who have a history of erroneously summarizing invalid personal abuse just to get a reaction. They also like to generate bad vibes between others as they have nothing better to do. Misogyny is another commonality.

Stick to the topic please! My opinion of FH's site was posted to FH and is within the topic details. You opinions of me are not!

Now let's not get silly here! I have no opinion about you personally.

You had to be pulled in because of your wrongfull, personally motivated review of a Cypriot website posted by FH. And all I did was tell FH the truth so that she isn't misled and my post was directed to her, not you. But of course, you had to react again!

As for your personal allegations of misogyny, nothing can be further from the truth or false. No woman that knows me personally has ever accused me of this. Women usually love my company because I am very talkative, social and polite. If I said anything as part of joking around or some funny forum "sex wars" then you as a mature adult should be able to distinuish the difference. You do seem like quite the 'man hater' though. Not saying you are for sure, it is just your posts seem quite bitter.

Furthermore, I am not after a reaction. You react falsly all by yourself without any assistance from me. Once again it was you that reacted with false and misleading information regarding a website and its author when it was innocently posted here.

I suggest you relax.

[supporttheunderdog]

hi Paphitis

I think I am the accused here... Mysogeny? Now that is a new one....