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[miltiades]

A third of our island is under Turkish occupation, by kind permission of the mainland Greeks.
This nation, Greece, has NEVER in our long history contributed anything towards our liberty, security ,territorial integrity
or any other issue effecting our independence. Brainwashed Cypriots reject their TRUE motherland which can only be CYPRUS, indeed we are related to the Greeks through language, religion and some culture but we are our own race.

The same applies to our T/C compatriots, Turkey is not their motherland, Cyprus is. Ditch this erroneous perception and Cyprus can be a truly independent nation.

The time will come when the Turkish occupation will come to an end and it will not have been through Greek intervention/ protection but through our own efforts.

The balance of power, as Piratis used to say, is fast approaching.

[Flying Horse]

The Greeks should be included as invaders in a) about 1100 BC or so, And b) about 300 bc. Greekness is an old import , the language imposed by law in 300 bc

Some genetic evidence suggests that
A) at least on the matrilineal side the population has been fairly stable for 6000 years 2000 years before anything Greek can be identified,
B) Turkish speaking Cypriots of pre 74 ancestry and Greek speaking Cypriots are probably genetically very similar, more so than to either modern Greeks or Turks.
Cyprus' biggest enemy are Greek and Turkish wanabees who want to see Cyprus run from Athens or Ankara.

Oh and "g"IG will be more slithery than an eel, and try to put words in your argument or Create false meanings as i think we saw above.

I do see your point for the Greeks being invaders. I'm pretty sure the Spartans didn't just row over on a banana boat, to just ask politely if it was ok to set up house, and settle It's funny, they were always bickering with 'Greece' over territory too!

We tend to agree about pre 74 people being similarly genetic, too many invasions!
I don't wish to see Cyprus ruled by anyone but herself. There is no need for a motherland. Given the chance I'm sure she can stand on her own two feet.
I won't have words put in my mouth. Whatever arguments with other members before I came along is of no interest to me. I won't be influenced..... I'm well versed in how forums work. I moderate a motorcycle one.

If you guys are trolls, you'd howl with laughter at the Neanderthal bikers

[supporttheunderdog]

The Greeks should be included as invaders in a) about 1100 BC or so, And b) about 300 bc. Greekness is an old import , the language imposed by law in 300 bc

Some genetic evidence suggests that
A) at least on the matrilineal side the population has been fairly stable for 6000 years 2000 years before anything Greek can be identified,
B) Turkish speaking Cypriots of pre 74 ancestry and Greek speaking Cypriots are probably genetically very similar, more so than to either modern Greeks or Turks.
Cyprus' biggest enemy are Greek and Turkish wanabees who want to see Cyprus run from Athens or Ankara.

Oh and "g"IG will be more slithery than an eel, and try to put words in your argument or Create false meanings as i think we saw above.

I do see your point for the Greeks being invaders. I'm pretty sure the Spartans didn't just row over on a banana boat, to just ask politely if it was ok to set up house, and settle It's funny, they were always bickering with 'Greece' over territory too!

We tend to agree about pre 74 people being similarly genetic, too many invasions!
I don't wish to see Cyprus ruled by anyone but herself. There is no need for a motherland. Given the chance I'm sure she can stand on her own two feet.
I won't have words put in my mouth. Whatever arguments with other members before I came along is of no interest to me. I won't be influenced..... I'm well versed in how forums work. I moderate a motorcycle one.

If you guys are trolls, you'd howl with laughter at the Neanderthal bikers

Are you insulting the neanderthals or bikers with that comparison?

[Flying Horse]

The Greeks should be included as invaders in a) about 1100 BC or so, And b) about 300 bc. Greekness is an old import , the language imposed by law in 300 bc

Some genetic evidence suggests that
A) at least on the matrilineal side the population has been fairly stable for 6000 years 2000 years before anything Greek can be identified,
B) Turkish speaking Cypriots of pre 74 ancestry and Greek speaking Cypriots are probably genetically very similar, more so than to either modern Greeks or Turks.
Cyprus' biggest enemy are Greek and Turkish wanabees who want to see Cyprus run from Athens or Ankara.

Oh and "g"IG will be more slithery than an eel, and try to put words in your argument or Create false meanings as i think we saw above.

I do see your point for the Greeks being invaders. I'm pretty sure the Spartans didn't just row over on a banana boat, to just ask politely if it was ok to set up house, and settle It's funny, they were always bickering with 'Greece' over territory too!

We tend to agree about pre 74 people being similarly genetic, too many invasions!
I don't wish to see Cyprus ruled by anyone but herself. There is no need for a motherland. Given the chance I'm sure she can stand on her own two feet.
I won't have words put in my mouth. Whatever arguments with other members before I came along is of no interest to me. I won't be influenced..... I'm well versed in how forums work. I moderate a motorcycle one.

If you guys are trolls, you'd howl with laughter at the Neanderthal bikers

Are you insulting the neanderthals or bikers with that comparison?

hmmmmm tricky question! You got me there

[Cap]

A third of our island is under Turkish occupation, by kind permission of the mainland Greeks.
This nation, Greece, has NEVER in our long history contributed anything towards our liberty, security ,territorial integrity
or any other issue effecting our independence. Brainwashed Cypriots reject their TRUE motherland which can only be CYPRUS, indeed we are related to the Greeks through language, religion and some culture but we are our own race.

The same applies to our T/C compatriots, Turkey is not their motherland, Cyprus is. Ditch this erroneous perception and Cyprus can be a truly independent nation.

The time will come when the Turkish occupation will come to an end and it will not have been through Greek intervention/ protection but through our own efforts.

The balance of power, as Piratis used to say, is fast approaching.

[GreekIslandGirl]

I do see your point for the Greeks being invaders.

Care to expand?

[miltiades]

You are NEVER alone with a few quid in your pocket, Cyprus as from now will NEVER be alone with a few trillion cf of gas and some extremely powerful partners.

For the first time in my life I feel confident and secure in the knowledge that Turkey will NEVER consider any further action against our island, against our people, her time in Cyprus is fast approaching its date of FO, out of Cyprus.

[Paphitis]

I do see your point for the Greeks being invaders.

Care to expand?

It really doesn't matter.

They may have invaded or not been welcome. No one really knows. What matters now is that they are CYPRIOT along with the rest, including those that arrived or were converted post 1573.

You must understand, that we need a little less Greek (and less Turkish) and more Cypriot. FH is English or German if memory serves me correct. Most of Western Europe, North America and Australia have this mentality and it is in my opinion very correct and stable. You will NEVER see the new countries focus their history or attention on ANY "Mother Country". That is something that happened 100 years ago. They have grown out of this. Now they look to celebrate things that make them unique and they develop their own unique and all encompassing identity. You would be hard pressed finding many similarities between an Englishman, Australian, or American yet many are of the exact same race. Their experiences are different, their schooling, environment, food, drink, music and even the way they talk is different. They don't want to be the same. Yet they are the best of friends or close allies. They are their own countries. And they are extremely proud and nationalistic. They do have a lot to be proud of and there is nothing they don't believe they can achieve. Cyprus needs more of this.

It has nothing to do with any dislike of Greece or Turkey (although Turkey is quite rightly disliked), but we need to harness those things that all the island's inhabitants can identify with, otherwise there is division.

What we do is quite simply something that is not well understood by let's say any American, Australian or Canadian. We too must express our own type of Nationalism. It is very important for a country. You can't be subordinate to anyone. Cyprus must be number one!!!

Relations with Greece would remain. Relations with Turkey could develop if they get the hell out!

What we are seeing are some growing pains. Soon there will be a solution to the Cyprus Problem(I am 100% certain) and it will be up to us to discard any influence from either Greece or Turkey and the only way that is going to happen is if both communities join forces as Cypriots. It is a long term objective but it will happen.

The solution we will have will not be the best solution (unfortunately). But in a generation or 2, this solution will be succeeded by a newer state of affairs provided we are patient and educate the young GCs and TCs the way they should be - as Cypriots.

Cyprus is just at a place where the US and Australia were about 100 years ago. We are a new country, much younger than they are in fact! I would suspect that Cyprus in a 100 years from now will be a very different place.

[SKI-preo]

In NSW Australia students from Cypriot backgrounds are no longer marked down for letting in a few Cypriot slang words in the Modern Greek Oral exam.