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[cypezokyli]

dont have a clue about law, but how can it be made a criminal offence?
and on the ground of what? treason?
i believe (if this is really happening and not just another medias b**ls**t ), they are loosing the game and they try -instead of doing sth about it- to cause fear to the people.

[RAFAELLA]

Rafaella,
I hope you never thought Talat was doing this to bring justice to the refugees,did you?
He is desperately trying to give the impression that some justice might be done some day down the track,to gain time for Turkey in EU courts now.
But could he really do anything else?Given that 80-90 percent of land in the TRNC is owned by GCs (as I'm told on this forum) where will Talat build his TRNC(and make it prosper,as he says he wants to do) if he gives it all back?

Kalimera Birki
Even if the sun rises from the west I wouldn’t believe anything that comes from the Bold Hawk. The other day, the Old Bold Hawk – Denktash stated that he is against that action because as he said nothing will be left for “trnc” or the Tcs if the Gcs start getting back their properties. At least they admit that everything was stolen by the Turks and they are afraid that their handicapped “state” sooner or later will have an expiry date. Plus, they admit their illegality.
“We will arrange the law, not as we wish, but as the international law could accept it and in a way that responds to our needs”, Bold Hawk's statement is very clear and needs no interpretation.

Birki, I believe that “trnc” is incapable of proceeding to any amendments of its “laws” in order to be in accordance with International law.
An illegal state that violates any International law itself cannot offer any form of justice through International law.

The property that will be returned will be in the TRNC and GCs will have to pay taxes like the rest of us to the TRNC Government. Those that choose compensation will sever their ties with the north for ever.
But we are reading that your leaders are now bringing a law to make it a criminal offence upto 4 years imprisonment for those who apply for return of their property, again another sign of goodwill on the part of your administration, surely the EU and EHCR will have something to say about that.
Just imagine Yorgo gets his land back but goes to prison for 4 years, would make a great headline dont you think?

Where did you hear/read that the CyR government will sue anyone who might apply to “trnc” court? ATCA news maybe?

[Viewpoint]

You have it in a nutshell, whenever one side tries to do something positive the other side tries to shoot it down, its so childish and typical Cypriot mentality, this shows how much we have learned from our past mistakes and changed to adapt to the 21st century Surely it should be given a chance GC refugees should use this board or court which will not just be made up of TCs but have independent representation as well to bring about a remedy to each particular application.

[Viewpoint]

The property that will be returned will be in the TRNC and GCs will have to pay taxes like the rest of us to the TRNC Government. Those that choose compensation will sever their ties with the north for ever.
But we are reading that your leaders are now bringing a law to make it a criminal offence upto 4 years imprisonment for those who apply for return of their property, again another sign of goodwill on the part of your administration, surely the EU and EHCR will have something to say about that.
Just imagine Yorgo gets his land back but goes to prison for 4 years, would make a great headline dont you think?

Where did you hear/read that the CyR government will sue anyone who might apply to “trnc” court? ATCA news maybe? [/quote]

It is reported in the maninland Turkish Newspaper Milliyet and our local paper Kibris page 7 today.

Would you be disappointed if this actually worked and GCs got either their land back or fair compensation? The second option will imo be more attractive as many GCs properties will have been used or they would not want to be associated with the TRNC.

[Alexios]

I suppose, that if sufficient remedy is provided, and just one G/C is satisfied within reasonable time, then hundreds if not thousands will follow.I have one question however. Who will pay all that compensation and when??!!!

[Viewpoint]

I suppose, that if sufficient remedy is provided, and just one G/C is satisfied within reasonable time, then hundreds if not thousands will follow.I have one question however. Who will pay all that compensation and when??!!!

If we take into account that Turkey paid Loizidou imo they will foot most of the bill together with international contributions.

[RAFAELLA]

It is reported in the maninland Turkish Newspaper Milliyet and our local paper Kibris page 7 today.

Ok, not ATCA but Turkish press. There’s nothing in our press as far as I know.

I suppose, that if sufficient remedy is provided, and just one G/C is satisfied within reasonable time, then hundreds if not thousands will follow.I have one question however. Who will pay all that compensation and when??!!!

I guess compensation will be paid from the taxes that Gcs will have to pay to “trnc”.
Plus, if Gcs properties are given back to their legal owners those who were using those properties now, how will they react against their “government”?

[Alexios]

We need some answers obviously.But anything we ask or suppose can only have hypothetical answers.We will have to wait and see what the european court,s decision will be and under which terms any decision will be based upon.

[RAFAELLA]

I found this article just now, unfortunately only in Greek... I'll try to find it in English as well.

ΚΡΙΣΙΜΟ ΠΑΡΑΣΚΗΝΙΟ ΣΤΟ ΣΤΡΑΣΒΟΥΡΓΟ ΓΙΑ ΤΙΣ Ε/Κ ΠΡΟΣΦΥΓΕΣ
Δίμηνη αναβολή για Τιτίνα
http://www.politis-news.com/cgibin/hweb ... rticles&-p

[Alexios]

Like on many other issues it is obvious that the Erdwan government is determined to implement unilaterally the Annan Plan.I hope they succeed and Cyrano de Bergerac comes to his senses...)