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However, for a Greek Cypriot to get his property back, the person currently occupying it would need to agree to move, and would be given compensation for this. If the current resident does not agree, the case would go to court (in the north).

Alternatively, the Greek Cypriot would be offered compensation; if he/she did not accept this, then again the case would go to court. If, in both scenarios, the court failed to resolve the dispute, then the litigants would seek recourse at the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).

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Meanwhile, Turkish Cypriot press reports said the regime was considering allowing Greek Cypriot refugee Titina Loizidou to return to her house in Kyrenia by the end of the year, as a gesture that Turkey was complying with ECHR rulings.

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http://www.financialmirror.com/more_new ... 32&type=st

The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg appeared to recognise the courts in northern Cyprus on Tuesday when it ruled for the first time that for the purposes of the Convention, the legal remedies available in the regime in northern Cyprus could be regarded as "domestic remedies", while emphasising that the government of the Republic of Cyprus (in the south) remained the sole legitimate government of Cyprus.

http://www.financialmirror.com/more_new ... 33&type=st

According to reports, a bill has been submitted to the Turkish Cypriot assembly to amend article 59 of the administration’s constitution, which appropriated all Greek Cypriot property to the unrecognised state.

Under the amendment, Greek Cypriots would be able to apply to get their property back or receive compensation. Those living in Greek Cypriot property--displaced Turkish Cypriots and Turks from the mainland--would be offered compensation.

If the current occupier refused, the case would go to court in the north and, if necessary to the European Court of Human Rights.

This has been dubbed the implementation of parts of the UN Plan which the Greek Cypriots rejected. Under the plan, displaced Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots (known locally as refugees) would be eligible for either full restitution or a mixture of restitution and compensation depending on which area their property was located in.


The role of the ECHR


There are also reports that Titina Loizidou, the Greek Cypriot refugee who won a landmark case against Turkey at the ECHR, would be allowed to return to her property in the north.

In the Loizidou case which encouraged other Greek Cypriots to file cases, Turkey was ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in compensation and was ordered to allow her freedom to enjoy her property.

[cypezokyli]

this whole change of law thing. if it is accepted by the ECHR, that would mean a major drawback for our side. on the other hand, it could even be the necessary pressure we need to sit on the negotiating table. lets see

[bg_turk]

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 9&cat_id=1

MACHI: “The refugees’ uprising”. The paper reported that the government’s face has reddened with anger after the news of the changes the north is planning to make to the Greek Cypriot properties law by adding a statement that besides compensation they are willing to give and the exchange of properties on each side they is now a chance that the properties belonging to Greek Cypriots might be returned. What is even worse for the government is that many refugees have grouped and are planning to go together to the north for more information

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Talat admits that the “draft law” for the properties has been prepared aiming at creating “acceptable local remedies” in the ECHR and changing the course of the Cyprus problem in favour of the Turkish Cypriots.

Turkish Cypriot daily KIBRIS newspaper (05.12.05) reports that the Turkish Cypriot leader, Mr. Mehmet Ali Talat has admitted that the new so-called draft-law regarding the occupied Greek Cypriot properties is prepared aiming at creating acceptable local remedies in the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).

In an interview with illegal TAK news agency, Mr Talat said that in case the ECHR accepts this “law” as local remedies, this would be “a serious fact that would stop the bad course of the Cyprus problem from the point of view of the Turkish Cypriots”.

Noting that the “draft-law” was “a local product”, but the views of jurists from Turkey’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Strasbourg have been also taken, Mr Talat argued that those who criticize the “draft-law’ could not make any other suggestion and that the problem derives from this fact.

Mr Talat said that the political parties in the self-styled assembly had been informed about the “draft-law” on Thursday and wished that everybody would behave with responsibility and avoid actions that would harm the Turkish Cypriots.

Referring to the decisions of the ECHR regarding the cases of Mrs Titina Loizidou and Mrs Myra Xenides Aresti, Mr Talat noted:
“Since we feel uncomfortable with the decisions of the ECHR, which at the end convicts Turkey regarding Cyprus and therefore move totally within our area and furthermore they are making the solution of the Cyprus problem more difficult and even impossible in the future, we have prepared this law thinking that the way of getting rid of all these is to create serious local remedies”.

Reiterating that their effort is to create acceptable local remedies, Mr Talat pointed out that these remedies must be accepted by the international law and the ECHR. “We will arrange the law, not as we wish, but as the international law could accept it and in a way that responds to our needs”*, he added.

Mr Talat said that the “draft-law” has not been prepared aiming at solving the issue of the properties. It is a temporary arrangement which we planed in order to find a solution to the claims regarding the properties in the conditions of the non-solution, he argued.

Mr Talat noted that those who wish could protest at the “Supreme Court” against the decisions of the so-called Property Compensation Committee.
He said that for the moment a list is being drawn up of properties which are both in the occupied areas of the Republic of Cyprus and in the government controlled areas, but this has nothing to do with the above-mentioned “draft-law”.

Mr Talat alleged that the Greek Cypriots are trying to eliminate the bi-zonality with many court decisions which force everybody to return to the property he owned before the 1974 Turkish invasion of Cyprus and thus to do away with the parameters created in the United Nations. “This is very dangerous. It is a serious danger that could push the Cyprus problem to the no-solution. Therefore, we are in a position to stop this”, he added.
http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument
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*His statement includes everything and it shows the just- -intentions of the puppet state's "courts"

[BirKibrisli]

Rafaella,
I hope you never thought Talat was doing this to bring justice to the refugees,did you?
He is desperately trying to give the impression that some justice might be done some day down the track,to gain time for Turkey in EU courts now.
But could he really do anything else?Given that 80-90 percent of land in the TRNC is owned by GCs (as I'm told on this forum) where will Talat build his TRNC(and make it prosper,as he says he wants to do) if he gives it all back?

[Viewpoint]

The property that will be returned will be in the TRNC and GCs will have to pay taxes like the rest of us to the TRNC Government. Those that choose compensation will sever their ties with the north for ever.
But we are reading that your leaders are now bringing a law to make it a criminal offence upto 4 years imprisonment for those who apply for return of their property, again another sign of goodwill on the part of your administration, surely the EU and EHCR will have something to say about that.

Just imagine Yorgo gets his land back but goes to prison for 4 years, would make a great headline dont you think?

[Alexios]

Is this true???!!!!

[Viewpoint]

Is this true???!!!!

Should be in your newpapers today or look in Simerini which reported that an MP from the Euro.ko party Hristos Klirdis has prepared and presented this draft law.

[Alexios]

I am not surprised coming from Clerides...We shall all have to wait and see what happens.The important thing is, if the european court decides that courts in the North can provide sufficient remedy, then that remedy to invlude the right to return within a reasonable time period.Otherwise, its all a gimick.