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Postby kimon07 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:16 pm

THE TERRORISTS congratulate A. SAMARAS!

Note: Google translation touched a bit by me.

Political alliance of the "Revolutionary Struggle" and the government against G.D
12.10.13
MaziotisXL.jpg


Photo: Three murderous terrorists of the revolutionary Struggle taken to prison.

The government has found an unexpected ally in its fight against the People's Association-Golden Dawn: The leadership of the terrorist group “Revolutionary Struggle”, the couple of Nikos Maziotis and Paola Roupa, who disappeared after the scandalous leave that they had been granted from the prison of Korydallos and of course, never returned.
The specific terrorists issued a furious proclamation against GD for the murder of Pavlos Fyssas, talking about "first fascist murder after the military junta."
In this they admit that the foreign creditors imposed the arrest of the leaders of the GD and the confinement in prison its three deputies and propose to start an armed struggle to execute all members of the GD.
They commend the government for its actions but accuse it that it resulted to them very late and only when it started getting worried that GD was becoming a threat to the system
Finally, they promise blood and pain to the nationalists and vow to act jointly with the government so that not a single nostril of fascists will be left.
Congratulations to the government for its new political allies. Well done!

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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby kurupetos » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:09 pm

All traitors and criminals are against GD. Never mind, because we'll soon rule Hellas. :wink:
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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:17 pm

kurupetos wrote:All traitors and criminals are against GD. Never mind, because we'll soon rule Hellas. :wink:

I think some of you have lost the meaning of nationalism… :lol:

Mind you, I'll bet Merkel has no complaints!
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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby kurupetos » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:48 pm

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:All traitors and criminals are against GD. Never mind, because we'll soon rule Hellas. :wink:

I think some of you have lost the meaning of nationalism… :lol:

Mind you, I'll bet Merkel has no complaints!

Of course not, Samaras is her bitch. :wink:
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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:06 am

kurupetos wrote:All traitors and criminals are against GD. Never mind, because we'll soon rule Hellas. :wink:

It is GD who are the traitors nazi scum that they are, lead by a convict.
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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:06 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:There is nothing more to please the enemies of Greece than to rile up the Right against the Left!

Foreigners did this in post-war Greece to start the civil war and right now, there are hundreds of Hedge Fund Mangers betting on starting another Civil War in Greece.

It's acceptable to question why GD have been accused of these things. It's acceptable to question how communist the left/Syriza happen to be - but it is NOT acceptable to make wild accusations that ANY of Greece's parties and politicians are any worse than those of any other European country!

Stop the cycle, please!


ND and PASOK are actually in coalition which is a positive development. Greece needs unity between the main Center Left and Center Right parties. They decided to abide by all Troika conditions, and Greece is in no position to deviate from that now.

No one wants to see Greece have a Civil War! No one! It would be the worst thing for Europe and NATO, and it will destroy the country. There will be a flow on effect to other countries economically.

You must realize that Greece is an ally to many countries, including a very trusted ally of the US. It is a NATO member and the US has been building Greece up militarily for decades. They would never want anything like a Civil War anywhere near Greece.

As to the post WW2 Civil War, most of the interference you refer to was from Russia and even more so from Tito's Yugoslavia who wanted to control Greece. The Greek Government received a lot of aid and assistance to defeat these forces in Northern Greece.

Greece can do without this. This is the danger of that extreme parties pose, such as Syriza and GD. We can only be mindful because you just can't ban all these parties unless of course you can prove they are involved in criminal activity such as is the case with GD. Syriza supporters created a lot of havoc on the streets and GD have been particularly violent against them provoking even more mayhem.

There are very serious issues, and to stop any cycle, the people must mobilize against them (GD), which is what we are seeing in Greece now.

Once again, no one wants to see Greece in trouble. The world is behind them, from all corners. Even non EU countries like US and Australia are behind Greece and want to see all the trouble subside soon. Whatever goes on in Europe effects non EU countries as well.
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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:06 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:It's acceptable to question why GD have been accused of these things. It's acceptable to question how communist the left/Syriza happen to be - but it is NOT acceptable to make wild accusations that ANY of Greece's parties and politicians are any worse than those of any other European country!

Stop the cycle, please!


I found an interesting piece from a Greek Philosopher about the current state of play within Greek Politics and thr rise of GD.

What he has to say makes a lot of sense and I agree with many of the points he makes.

Unfortunately I will have to disagree with you about Greek Politicians. They have generally been terrible. They must bear much of the reponsibility for the level of Political Polarization within Greek Society which sadly has also been excessive and unhealthy for the country.

Here is what he has to say:

Golden Dawn has fed on people’s insecurity

Philosopher Stelios Ramfos discusses the cultural underpinnings of far-right extremism in Greece


Recent developments concerning Greece’s neo-Nazi Golden Dawn suggest that the rise of the party – followed by the ensuing crackdown against it – cannot be assessed through a straightforward political analysis. Can this phenomenon be understood simply as an offshoot of the economic crisis or do we need to drill deeper below the surface? A discussion with philosopher Stelios Ramfos provides interesting food for thought on the issue.


Why would a Greek be attracted to an extremist political grouping like Golden Dawn?

We are experiencing a crisis that has serious social and political consequences. Greeks feel betrayed and, to a large extent, reject the formerly dominant political system. Golden Dawn capitalized on their anger and disappointment, quickly increasing its popularity to double-digit figures. The rise of leftist SYRIZA on the other hand can be explained by the defection of the populist element from PASOK. Golden Dawn is really the new player here


This certainly makes a lot of sense. Similar to what occurred in Germany during the 1930s.

There is a strong sense of betrayal and I certainly can understand this.

Is there a cure for these people? Can they make peace with their fellow citizens?

It would be best if they could first come to terms with themselves and find peace inside. It would help if politicians would realize that, at a deeper level, the problem lies in the fact that all these years of partisan wrangling gave rise to a political system based on discord and confrontation without having anything positive to offer – only tension. People are disgusted at seeing that politicians are not changing tune. Tension, as we all know, is a key component of insecurity, while it is insecurity that is pushing people toward Golden Dawn and other similar groups. In order to release the tension and temper passions there must finally be a policy of national unity that can grapple with the big problems of society. Only then will the illness begin to subside. To the extent that social tension will continue to breed insecurity, and even if Golden Dawn is dismantled as a criminal organization, the problem will remain and the extremist party will simply be substituted by something else.


He is dead right unfortunately.

Our politicians have developed this level of partisan wrangling and the political system is based on discord and confrontation. I have not seen this in other countries quite to the same extent. Not even close.

It really is an incredible shame, and it is very difficult for a country to be Governed properly under such an atmosphere. Which is why it is imperative for the extreme parties to temper their ideologies. The raids against GD send a clear message, that their behavior will not be tolerated. Then we have Syriza, whose supporters nearly sacked all of Athens! :roll:

THEN, it is important for the other centrist parties to develop strategies to unify the country because things cannot continue the way they are.

It is not right to blame the people. They are desperate, and very insecure in the current environment and they feel betrayed.

There certainly are some seedy forces (GD) from within that would love a Civil Way. The political elites (ND and PASOK) must join forces and never allow this to happen. Foreign powers certainly don't want to see this happen either. The threat is internal, not external. Hopefully, the Government is dealing with it in the right fashion.

Anyway, there is more to the article. Have a read because it is quite an interesting piece.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_ar ... 013_522787
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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:11 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
kurupetos wrote:All traitors and criminals are against GD. Never mind, because we'll soon rule Hellas. :wink:

It is GD who are the traitors nazi scum that they are, lead by a convict.

The Greeks will decide that, not you, dog. :roll:
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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby kurupetos » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:21 am

30+% for GD!



We are coming! 8) :D
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Re: At Last the Greek Gov Acts On Golden Dawn

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:53 am

On this day ... 17 October 1941

The Nazis carried out reprisals against the villages of upper and lower Kerdyllia for alleged support to the Resistance to Occupation.

The residents of these villages were ordered out of their homes. The males of ages 15-60 were separated, made to dig their own graves and executed. 222 Greeks were murdered in this way by the Nazis.

The houses of the villages were burnt to the ground.

These are the memorials to the Greeks who were murdered by the Nazis...
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