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[Maximus]

dude, Canada is Canada. what is so hard to understand? There are Provinces, they are in Canada, not Independent, but Jurisdictionally they have Rights that are their own.

Sure and Cyprus is Cyprus but these states are now independent Canadian provinces from their 'homelands' (England, Ireland, Scotland, France etc) though aren't they?

Relate this to Cyprus being an independent Greek Province for Cypriots with rights that are jurisdictionally her own..

[Lordo]

oy you dont compae me to durgosporos.

What's that, ghaourospore?

kurumehmet

[repulsewarrior]

dude, Canada is Canada. what is so hard to understand? There are Provinces, they are in Canada, not Independent, but Jurisdictionally they have Rights that are their own.

Sure and Cyprus is Cyprus but these states are now independent Canadian provinces from their 'homelands' (England, Ireland, Scotland, France etc) though aren't they?

Relate this to Cyprus being an independent Greek Province for Cypriots with rights that are jurisdictionally her own..

...ok, both Cyprus and Canada have the same mother, it is the desire of Human Beings to live in a loving nature, Free, as Individuals. Persons who have a belonging to another Identity are just that, Persons. Provinces reflect the singular identity of being Canadian, (by respecting their electorate as Individuals) even though in expression they have quite different agendas. not unlike Cyprus, "foreign" flags fly, and someone who chooses to reflect a Nation has this Liberty, you may find many Fleurs de Lys, flying in Quebec, nothing stops the Union Jacks from flying, either. in effect, all Canadians are Canadian in defending the Freedom they have as a State, and all Canadians willingly accept as a Principal the recognition and respect as Canadians, they have for Canada's diversity. It is not that Ontario has as a "motherland", England, or that China is a "motherland" of BC, it is more as Persons that we choose to live our daily lives within a sphere that is different to our own, mostly because we like it.

Cyprus has the same opportunity as Canada, to be Bicommunal, and to define their Liberty, as well as their Freedom. why not a Greek Constituency where Greek schools and services are the first priority, but as a majority respectful to the special needs of the minorities amongst them, not unlike a Turkish Constituency, (and others), within Cyprus, a Country, as Citizens, their State?

[Maximus]

dude, Canada is Canada. what is so hard to understand? There are Provinces, they are in Canada, not Independent, but Jurisdictionally they have Rights that are their own.

Sure and Cyprus is Cyprus but these states are now independent Canadian provinces from their 'homelands' (England, Ireland, Scotland, France etc) though aren't they?

Relate this to Cyprus being an independent Greek Province for Cypriots with rights that are jurisdictionally her own..

...ok, both Cyprus and Canada have the same mother, it is the desire of Human Beings to live in a loving nature, Free, as Individuals. Persons who have a belonging to another Identity are just that, Persons. Provinces reflect the singular identity of being Canadian, (by respecting their electorate as Individuals) even though in expression they have quite different agendas. not unlike Cyprus, "foreign" flags fly, and someone who chooses to reflect a Nation has this Liberty, you may find many Fleurs de Lys, flying in Quebec, nothing stops the Union Jacks from flying, either. in effect, all Canadians are Canadian in defending the Freedom they have as a State, and all Canadians willingly accept as a Principal the recognition and respect as Canadians, they have for Canada's diversity. It is not that Ontario has as a "motherland", England, or that China is a "motherland" of BC, it is more as Persons that we choose to live our daily lives within a sphere that is different to our own, mostly because we like it.

Cyprus has the same opportunity as Canada, to be Bicommunal, and to define their Liberty, as well as their Freedom. why not a Greek Constituency where Greek schools and services are the first priority, but as a majority respectful to the special needs of the minorities amongst them, not unlike a Turkish Constituency, (and others), within Cyprus, a Country, as Citizens, their State?

Turks, by and large are not ready for this, as can been seen with everything from their human rights record right through to acknowledging borders and their EU aspirations..

The best idea for Cyprus is the one I proposed, for every ones sake.

[repulsewarrior]

...and you are telling me that the "Greeks" are prepared for this?

...furthermore, just because "Greeks" and "Turks" are not prepared to exist under a Cypriot identity, that the rest of us are supposed to fall in line?

...in simple terms, if you think Greece is your "motherland", who cares, this is Cyprus.

[Maximus]

...and you are telling me that the "Greeks" are prepared for this?

...furthermore, just because "Greeks" and "Turks" are not prepared to exist under a Cypriot identity, that the rest of us are supposed to fall in line?

...in simple terms, if you think Greece is your "motherland", who cares, this is Cyprus.

I am saying there should be a repatriation of the Ottoman Turkish "Cypriots" back to modern day Turkey. >Separation<. Each 'side' goes their own way so this problems ends and ends for good.

[supporttheunderdog]

but how does one define an 0ttoman Turkish Cypriot ?

[Maximus]

but how does one define an 0ttoman Turkish Cypriot ?

I think they all are apart from a few exceptions. (excluding the Turkish settlers)

From this group only the Cypriots would choose to remain in Cyprus after separation or "judgement day". The rest will move to Turkey of their own free will. The ones that do remain in Cyprus will probably be few and they can still be Turkish!

[supporttheunderdog]

Taking out the post 74 Anatolian settlers who have no legitimate claims to be Cypriot the ancestry is probably so intertwined , probably even predating the events of 1570 To 1572' and where the Moslem faith and Turkish language were likely adopted in many cases for social and economic reasons, that the chances are most genuine TSC ( and I exclude the post 74 settlers who are not genuine TSC) can claim an equal historical ancestral right to live in Cyprus as Greek speaking Cypriots.

[Maximus]

Taking out the post 74 Anatolian settlers who have no legitimate claims to be Cypriot the ancestry is probably so intertwined , probably even predating the events of 1570 To 1572' and where the Moslem faith and Turkish language were likely adopted in many cases for social and economic reasons, that the chances are most genuine TSC ( and I exclude the post 74 settlers who are not genuine TSC) can claim an equal historical ancestral right to live in Cyprus as Greek speaking Cypriots.

Its all in the mind.