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[DrCyprus]

Kurupetos is trying to serve us Greek nationalism filtered through a Turconazi mentality and garnished with a bunch of obsolete Greek Orthodox hatebullshit.

[repulsewarrior]

OK, so back to the point of Cyprus and MrH's only two solutions option,

I still think the one I proposed is the best and will rectify many of the past's mistakes at the same time. Cyprus is an independent Greek province for Cypriots and the solution is to remove the occupiers and those who support it from the north of Cyprus.

This is the point.

"Independent greek province" is an oxymoron.

Which is it? Independent or greek province?

why? Quebec is an independent French province for Canadians.

...not so, there are a Nation of people who are Quebecers, as the Natives are a Nation, and the Irish, the Scots, and the English of Ontario, the Acadians who see themselves as Franco-phone but not of the Quebecois, the Metis (who are the only true "Canadians" anthropologically), even the Ukrainians and the Chinese represent Nations, in Canada. Quebec may be French, as in having French as its Official Language, and there are extremists who find "strangers" in their midst offensive, but it is by Jurisdiction no different to any other Province, and although New Brunswick chooses to be Bilingual, all Provinces conform to Federal Law, and provide these essential services as Canadians, in the two Official Languages of Canada, did i mention that BC, as a Province, offers all its services in English and Chinese, and if you live in Manitoba as a Ukrainian you can go to a Hospital and find staff who are there to serve you in your mother tongue?

...in Canada as an Individual you are an equal to any other Canadian; you do not have to be "French" or "English" to enjoy the full benefits of being a Citizen (or to vote). You, may decide to live in a region, or a Province because of their own distinctiveness as Persons (and choose to actively partake in Provincial Politics), (a road sign may be in French only in Quebec, but emergency signs have a Pictogram, and French/English; (in Ontario most road signs are in English, the emergency sign is the same as in Quebec, but in English/French)), and in Quebec this debate has not stopped, and in many ways it is similar to the debate in Cyprus (and dare i say it, in Turkey too), those who are Intolerant seek to keep things under their control, using fear to resist change; those who are modern and urban chafe at this resistance, those that are Rural represent a significant portion of the vote.

[repulsewarrior]

...so, my question remains:

If a Republic exists, and a Turkish Constituency must exist, what is wrong with Cypriot Constituencies, why not, as well, a Greek Constituency? why can you not vote as a Cypriot, for Cyprus, and as a member (by where you reside) of a Constituency vote in what are local matters as a Person, whether Greek, Russian, or Jewish, as a Greek Cypriot, a Turkish Cypriot, a Maronite, a Latin, or Armenian, (and if i had my way an English Constituency too). why not Bizonal where Sovereignty is not an issue, there is one Cyprus, and why not many Territorial Jurisdictions, so that the 'Living Relics' of our Heritance can thrive? why not enclaves that pocket the whole island, if the Green line must stay, and stay relatively unchanged, is it not Justice seen if the Turkish Constituency, like the Greek Constituency serves an electorate that spans the whole island? is it not Justice seen if these two Constituencies, Greek and Turkish, recognised and respected the needs of the minorities amongst them, demonstrating their Goodwill, as Cypriots, toward each other.

...indeed, we must decide, do we as Cypriots want a President who bases his decisions on the Universal Principals we accept as Humans, or do we want a President who will do what is good for "Greekness" (and to the exclusion of any other "National" identity)?

[Maximus]

OK, so back to the point of Cyprus and MrH's only two solutions option,

I still think the one I proposed is the best and will rectify many of the past's mistakes at the same time. Cyprus is an independent Greek province for Cypriots and the solution is to remove the occupiers and those who support it from the north of Cyprus.

This is the point.

"Independent greek province" is an oxymoron.

Which is it? Independent or greek province?

why? Quebec is an independent French province for Canadians.

...not so, there are a Nation of people who are Quebecers, as the Natives are a Nation, and the Irish, the Scots, and the English of Ontario, the Acadians who see themselves as Franco-phone but not of the Quebecois, the Metis (who are the only true "Canadians" anthropologically), even the Ukrainians and the Chinese represent Nations, in Canada. Quebec may be French, as in having French as its Official Language, and there are extremists who find "strangers" in their midst offensive, but it is by Jurisdiction no different to any other Province, and although New Brunswick chooses to be Bilingual, all Provinces conform to Federal Law, and provide these essential services as Canadians, in the two Official Languages of Canada, did i mention that BC, as a Province, offers all its services in English and Chinese, and if you live in Manitoba as a Ukrainian you can go to a Hospital and find staff who are there to serve you in your mother tongue?

I am having trouble following,

so are you saying that Ontario is an independent English, Irish and Scottish province for Canadians but Quebec is not an independent French province for Canadians?

[kurupetos]

Kurupetos is trying to serve us Greek nationalism filtered through a Turconazi mentality and garnished with a bunch of obsolete Greek Orthodox hatebullshit.

OK, Paphitis.

[DrCyprus]

Kurupetos is trying to serve us Greek nationalism filtered through a Turconazi mentality and garnished with a bunch of obsolete Greek Orthodox hatebullshit.

OK, Paphitis.

I´d call Lordo a Cypriot and countryman before I called your petty ignorant teenage ass anything other than a deluded greconazi.

[Lordo]

oy you dont compae me to durgosporos.

[kurupetos]

Kurupetos is trying to serve us Greek nationalism filtered through a Turconazi mentality and garnished with a bunch of obsolete Greek Orthodox hatebullshit.

OK, Paphitis.

I´d call Lordo a Cypriot and countryman before I called your petty ignorant teenage ass anything other than a deluded greconazi.

That's fine, doc, because I'm neither a Spaniard, nor a Turk.

[kurupetos]

oy you dont compae me to durgosporos.

What's that, ghaourospore?

[repulsewarrior]

OK, so back to the point of Cyprus and MrH's only two solutions option,

I still think the one I proposed is the best and will rectify many of the past's mistakes at the same time. Cyprus is an independent Greek province for Cypriots and the solution is to remove the occupiers and those who support it from the north of Cyprus.

This is the point.

"Independent greek province" is an oxymoron.

Which is it? Independent or greek province?

why? Quebec is an independent French province for Canadians.

...not so, there are a Nation of people who are Quebecers, as the Natives are a Nation, and the Irish, the Scots, and the English of Ontario, the Acadians who see themselves as Franco-phone but not of the Quebecois, the Metis (who are the only true "Canadians" anthropologically), even the Ukrainians and the Chinese represent Nations, in Canada. Quebec may be French, as in having French as its Official Language, and there are extremists who find "strangers" in their midst offensive, but it is by Jurisdiction no different to any other Province, and although New Brunswick chooses to be Bilingual, all Provinces conform to Federal Law, and provide these essential services as Canadians, in the two Official Languages of Canada, did i mention that BC, as a Province, offers all its services in English and Chinese, and if you live in Manitoba as a Ukrainian you can go to a Hospital and find staff who are there to serve you in your mother tongue?

I am having trouble following,

so are you saying that Ontario is an independent English, Irish and Scottish province for Canadians but Quebec is not an independent French province for Canadians?

dude, Canada is Canada. what is so hard to understand? There are Provinces, they are in Canada, not Independent, but Jurisdictionally they have Rights that are their own.