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[Oceanside50]

if the solution doesnt include:

..Right of return to all refugees
..Freedom of Movement
..removal of all Turk troops and settlers
..Human/civil rights for all of Cyprus' citizens guaranteed
..a functioning government of one man one vote

then whats the point of negotiating any further, whether its Gc with Turkey or Tc with Greece etc..?

[Get Real!]

Anyway, to cut a long story short… Greece and Turkey seem to think that the year is 1958/59 and that they should arrange communal enclaves for Cyprus!

So the government of Cyprus needs to grow a spine and dismiss such ludicrous meetings instead of participating in them, and remind everyone that Cyprus is a UN member sovereign nation with an illegally occupied territory.

The correct course of action should be for the government of Cyprus to follow my advice as described in this thread…

cyprus36832.html

[GreekIslandGirl]

The Brits invited Turkey to destroy Cyprus back in 1955 and now GR! has extended the invitation for them to complete the job in 2013.

[kimon07]

Kimon it was recommended by the ROC and in particular anastasiades according to the greek fm press release

Yes. The content of his statement gives a somewhat different picture than the one above. In fact he said that Anastassiades asked him to agree to a meeting of the Greek government with the TC negotiator on a level which remains to be arranged, so that Turkey will, in return, accept to meet with the GC negotiator. He added that no reference was made to a four party conference or any other sort of involvement of Greece. The complete statement:

«Ο Πρόεδρος της Κυπριακής Δημοκρατίας κ. Ν. Αναστασιάδης ζήτησε από την ελληνική Κυβέρνηση να αποδεχθεί συνάντηση - σε επίπεδο που θα καθοριστεί - με τον διαπραγματευτή της τουρκοκυπριακής κοινότητας, προκειμένου να διευκολυνθεί η συνάντηση του διαπραγματευτή της ελληνοκυπριακής κοινότητας με την τουρκική Κυβέρνηση. Αυτό συμφωνήσαμε με τον κ. Davutoglu. Δεν έγινε καμία απολύτως αναφορά σε "τετραμερή" διάσκεψη ή σε οποιαδήποτε άλλη εμπλοκή της Ελλάδος. Οι δυο κοινότητες προβλέπονται στο ισχύον Σύνταγμα της Κυπριακής Δημοκρατίας του 1960 και ο ορισμός διαπραγματευτών έχει γίνει πολλές φορές στο παρελθόν. Η διαφύλαξη, άλλωστε, της διεθνούς νομικής προσωπικότητας της Κυπριακής Δημοκρατίας, που εκπροσωπείται από τον Πρόεδρο της και ενεργεί ως κυρίαρχο κράτος-μέλος του Ο.Η.Ε. και της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης, είναι θεμελιώδης μέριμνά μας.

Η Ελλάδα, όπως είχα την ευκαιρία να πω στον Γενικό Γραμματέα του ΟΗΕ, στηρίζει τις πρωτοβουλίες του Προέδρου Αναστασιάδη με στόχο μια δίκαιη, λειτουργική και βιώσιμη λύση στο πλαίσιο των σχετικών αποφάσεων του Συμβουλίου Ασφαλείας του Ο.Η.Ε., συμβατή με το κοινοτικό κεκτημένο».

http://www.mfa.gr/epikairotita/diloseis ... notet.html

Why would Anastassiades want to have our negotiator discussing directly with Turkey? Stupid question eh? Why would he support the Annan Plan?

[Paphitis]

Greece should be advising and assisting the RoC in all possible ways and by all possible means

Greece should NOT be advising anyone! If anything Greece should be restrained in a straight jacket and put on medication because her abysmal track record speaks for itself:

Greece was the perpetrator of…

1. The Cyprus 1974 debacle.

2. The “Join the EU for panacea” debacle.

3. The “Get some S300s and advertise it” debacle.

4. The Annan Plan debacle.

5. The “Invest in Greek junk bonds” debacle.

…and every other Cyprus disaster I can’t recall right now.


A rational government does not seek advice from irrational “allies” which says a lot about our successive governments.

Very true!

Greece has been the biggest disasster and still is the biggest disaster waiting to happen. This being the case, Greece shuld be the last country the RoC should take advice from or associate with!

[DT.]

Kimon it was recommended by the ROC and in particular anastasiades according to the greek fm press release

If true, then the FINAL disaster is imminent. It will mean the reversal of all positive developments since 2004. I hope he is lying (as usual).

Ah yes....those positive developments since 2004.....

Erm...what positive developments?

[Maximus]

Greece should be advising and assisting the RoC in all possible ways and by all possible means

Greece should NOT be advising anyone! If anything Greece should be restrained in a straight jacket and put on medication because her abysmal track record speaks for itself:

Greece was the perpetrator of…

1. The Cyprus 1974 debacle.

2. The “Join the EU for panacea” debacle.

3. The “Get some S300s and advertise it” debacle.

4. The Annan Plan debacle.

5. The “Invest in Greek junk bonds” debacle.

…and every other Cyprus disaster I can’t recall right now.


A rational government does not seek advice from irrational “allies” which says a lot about our successive governments.

Very true!

Greece has been the biggest disasster and still is the biggest disaster waiting to happen. This being the case, Greece shuld be the last country the RoC should take advice from or associate with!

Greeks from Greece died trying to defend Cyprus.

[Get Real!]

Greeks from Greece died trying to defend Cyprus.

You mean the ones that murdered Cypriots and overthrew the democratically elected government of Cyprus foolishly paving the way for the Turkish invasion and trapping themselves on the island?

Btw, you need NEVER specify "Greeks from Greece" because that's the only place you'll ever find them so it goes without saying that they're from Greece.

[Maximus]

Greeks from Greece died trying to defend Cyprus.

You mean the ones that murdered Cypriots and overthrew the democratically elected government of Cyprus foolishly paving the way for the Turkish invasion and trapping themselves on the island?

> They may have pulled the trigger (accidentally and egged on by....) but Cyprus's other allies loaded the gun. Which of Cyprus other allies that you would like to associate exclusively with are defending Cyprus?

Btw, you need NEVER specify "Greeks from Greece" because that's the only place you'll ever find them so it goes without saying that they're from Greece.

> Greeks live in Cyprus too and I don't buy into a Cypriot ethnicity, there is no such thing. I do not confuse the Greek ethnicity with a Cypriot nationality just like I do not confuse the English, Scottish and Welsh with their British nationality.

[Get Real!]

They may have pulled the trigger (accidentally and egged on by....) but Cyprus's other allies loaded the gun. Which of Cyprus other allies that you espouse too are defending Cyprus?

What the hell are you talking about you myopic penguin?

Greeks live in Cyprus too and I don't buy into a Cypriot ethnicity, there is no such thing. I do not confuse the Greek ethnicity with a Cypriot nationality just like I do not confuse the English, Scottish and Welsh with their British nationality.

That's because you’re a FUCKING IDIOT with a capital F.

It's by no accident you can't even spell!