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[Tim Drayton]

I was at my local shop this morning and see that they have set up a basket where people can leave donations for the needy. I think this is something that should be replicated nationally. It is good for the shopkeeper, too, because the things donated will have been bought at his/her shop.

I share Schnazer's suspicion of the notion of 'charity' and would prefer to see this as being a kind of social solidarity. I also somehow feel there is a very good chance that the two loaves of bread I donated will go to somebody who needs them, whereas if I donated money to a body branding itself as a 'charity' I would not be quite so sure.

[GreekIslandGirl]

It's good to hear Tim and Schnauzer advocate the more personal touch rather than use middlemen (credit cards with their cut) etc to make a 'clinical' donation. Don't get me wrong, sometimes distance precludes anything but, and as it is, we have standing orders for two animal charities (can't get to Siberia regularly). But the supermarket donations is such a good idea. It's something that many British supermarkets do for local animal sanctuaries.

The other thing we should adopt in Cyprus, is putting up signs after a harvest or crop-picking to let people know they can go and help themselves to what's left in the field. We did this to a limited extent with watermelons this summer, by word of mouth - but we had a few people stop over and gather up the remnants. In Greece, we have told the villagers they can help themselves to the olives, that we never seem to get a chance to pick (after 5 years with this being ignored, last year they were picked).

So, "Pick Your Own" signs all over Paphos please....

[miltiades]

Bread prices as well as milk are perhaps the most expensive in the entire world.
In the UK the standard GP on bread is 80%, labour is what costs the money and capital expenditure.
Bread prices in Cyprus are a daylight robbery. A koullour in London costs between 65p and 75p. In Cyprus a staggering 1.60Euros. Now, who is ripping off who here, the Americans, the Brits or the Cypriots.

Eggs, chickens, cheeses, twice as much as in the UK. Go on Cypriots, get those prices slashed and while you are at it find out why inferior Cypriot wines cost more than imported ones.

Almost forgot ! A mnimosino cost in Cyprus costs 50 euros, inc, Kollifa and a loaf of bread, the equivalent cost in London a mere £15 or 18 euros. Now who is ripping off who.

[Schnauzer]

In the UK (according to that which I have recently heard) a certain famous 'Chef' published a 'Menu' of which every ingredient of the meals consisted of 'Past Sell By' dated products, I was also told that an entire 'T'V' programme highlighted the fact that the 'Products' were all perfectly edible and a large 'Open Air Feast' was produced in order to prove the fact that such 'Throw away' foodstuffs were perfectly safe for the consumption of those in dire need.

Apparently the entire venture was hailed as a great success and, AS USUAL, nobody stepped forth from the crowds and asked those who came up with the idea just WHAT was the objective of such a demonstration ?.

MY view on the story is in tandem with that which I have already stated, "There is no excuse for hunger and starvation in 2013" nor has there been for many years past UNLESS it is desired and required by agencies (either 'Private or Governmental') which may benefit from such situations either from 'Profit' or an envisaged position of further 'Power' over the suffering masses.

Can you imagine the awful spectacle of starving people scrabbling through the 'Dustbins' of the better off in 'London' in order to feed themselves ?, well, allow me to inform you that such 'Scenarios' are already taking place BUT, not only in 'London', in many places all over the world and it is a 'Disgrace' because it is absolutely NOT NECCESSARY in today's society's.

Charities which advertise the 'Plight' of young children (with flies in their eyes) looking like tiny shrivelled 'Skeletons' will not quell the onslaught of 'Hunger' in 'Africa', nor will it solve the 'Water Shortages' or 'Lack of Medical Care' in many other parts of the world BUT, a
concerted effort of 'Government' or 'Private' concerns easily COULD if they concentrated MORE on the welfare of the people and LESS on their 'Military or Private Objectives' BUT, the opportunity for 'Emotional Blackmail' would not exist and the 'Decent Folk' would almost certainly turn their attention to the 'REAL' causes of the hardships they already have to deal with, a simple 'Trick' really, if it were not for the misfortune of others (in most cases purposely manufactured) the 'Decent Folk' would have nothing to compare themselves with and would surely want drastic changes.

It is not until you get 'Close Up' and live among the distress of those who suffer, that you become really aware of how futile the work of those who dedicate their lives to help the deprived IS, it is not until you actually experience and live among deprivation that you learn just how unnecessary it is and how easily such problems could be solved.

The 'Governments' have what they call 'War Chests'......"Great Stuff'........ Declare 'War' on 'Poverty', Starvation', 'Homelessness' and a host of other ills in the world, I don't know if you realise it folks BUT, there are 'NO WARS' going on at the moment, in order that such situations exist, they must be 'Declared' and (unless I am mistaken) other than 'Bush's' nonsensical 'War on Terror', the whole meaning of the word 'WAR' has been bandied about and used to add a little 'Grace' to acts of 'Murder' and 'Mayhem' in the 'Middle East'.

How about 'Parachuting' a few 'Plane-Loads' of 'Rice' near the starving masses of those who have been driven from their homes, I rather fancy they would rather die by being slaughtered by a descending bag of 'Rice' or maybe a 'Pallet of Heinz Baked Beans' than a 'Bomb' or 'Rocket' from 'Whoever's' side of the fence it may have come.

Incidentally, the 'Obvious' yet apparently 'Unseen' facts about the welfare of both our own population (and others) is that we are ALL paying for such care every time we spend money, regardless of where we spend it............ "Think about it".

[Paphitis]

Can someone also CC Schnauzer's post to Assad please?

With over 2 million Syrian refugees making a run for it, a few of his Missiles might keep a good few of them fed and warm this coming winter!

Long before the murderous 'Yanks' embarked upon their campaigns of destruction in the 'Middle East' in order to preserve 'Israel', the peoples of ALL those nations (which have recently been bombed into oblivion) were quite comfortable during their 'Winter Months' and despite their hardships, their 'Homes' were not the crumpled ruins they are since the 'Yanks' came in to 'Save' them.

Apparently, (or so we are led to believe) ALL of those nations were governed by 'Mad Dictators' and strangely enough, 'Assad' has also recently been awarded the same distinction, I originally thought that the 'Sand' might have something to do with it BUT, 'Idi Amin' was also cursed with the same 'Malady' as was 'Adolf Hitler' and many others before and since YET, not one of them was near 'MAD' enough
to expect their subjects to 'Believe' that every action they took was for the benefit of the said subjects, at least they had the integrity to allow their subjects to 'HATE' them (even though they could do nothing about it).


Of course, we are supposed to have forgotten about the 'Earlier' murderous unlawful attacks like 'Shock and Awe' by now, even those which closely followed should supposedly be confined to the 'Back-Burners' of the 'Stoves of History' BUT, DO NOT forget the 'OVENS', the horrors of them must be 'Burnished' in the minds of future generations, perchance some might forget, whilst the 'Terror State' is free to stockpile EVERY kind of weapon necessary to pose a 'Cataclysmic Threat' to every nation within thousands of miles of it.

These are the times in which we live, there is not a lot we can do about it BUT, at least we should NOT agree with the slaughter which is taking place within other nations, presumably for our benefit (or so we are told) particularly where innocent children and civilians are mowed down by the thousands and dispersed in greater numbers than ever the 'Wandering Jews' were. "Just an Observation"

Only one problem with this...

The US has never bombed or declared war on Syria as of yet.

[Schnauzer]

The US has never bombed or declared war on Syria as of yet.

Except 'By Proxy' of course.

[Paphitis]

The US has never bombed or declared war on Syria as of yet.

Except 'By Proxy' of course.

I don't bloody think so.

America did not start this or have anything to do with it.

[supporttheunderdog]

The US has never bombed or declared war on Syria as of yet.

Except 'By Proxy' of course.

I don't bloody think so.

America did not start this or have anything to do with it.

Do not forget that Isreal has been at war with Syria over many years, with occasional outbursts fighting, in particular in 1947, 1956, 1967 and 1973, as well as other shorter limited sporadic outbusts of shelling and aerial bombing, and where Isreal still occupies some Syrian Territory in the Golan Heights. See UN resolution 497 on the legitimacy of the occupation. Bearing in mind the way some people (even here in CF) consider there is some sort of special if not symbiotic relationship between the USA and Isreal, do not be surprised if as a part of their Zionist conspiracy theories they do not express the view that these wars (with bombings by the IAF) and occupation to be a manifestation of a joint Isreal/US Zionist policy...I make no comment on the validity of such theories let alone the sanity of those who may promote them, and the expression that such theory exists is not an endorsement of any such theory...

[Paphitis]

I do not believe Israel is involved either.

This is some kind of Islamic war between secularists and the Islamic Brotherhood/Hesbollah/Al Qaeda.

Some of the FSA are indeed foreign to Syria and they are no friends to Israel or US.

[Schnauzer]

Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays, dealing with 'Food Shortages' and suchlike, NOT 'UN Resolutions' and 'Who Shot John ?' (or Γιάννης)

Postby Schnauzer » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:53 pm

In the UK (according to that which I have recently heard) a certain famous 'Chef' published a 'Menu' of which every ingredient of the meals consisted of 'Past Sell By' dated products, I was also told that an entire 'T'V' programme highlighted the fact that the 'Products' were all perfectly edible and a large 'Open Air Feast' was produced in order to prove the fact that such 'Throw away' foodstuffs were perfectly safe for the consumption of those in dire need.

Apparently the entire venture was hailed as a great success and, AS USUAL, nobody stepped forth from the crowds and asked those who came up with the idea just WHAT was the objective of such a demonstration ?.

MY view on the story is in tandem with that which I have already stated, "There is no excuse for hunger and starvation in 2013" nor has there been for many years past UNLESS it is desired and required by agencies (either 'Private or Governmental') which may benefit from such situations either from 'Profit' or an envisaged position of further 'Power' over the suffering masses.

Can you imagine the awful spectacle of starving people scrabbling through the 'Dustbins' of the better off in 'London' in order to feed themselves ?, well, allow me to inform you that such 'Scenarios' are already taking place BUT, not only in 'London', in many places all over the world and it is a 'Disgrace' because it is absolutely NOT NECCESSARY in today's society's.

Charities which advertise the 'Plight' of young children (with flies in their eyes) looking like tiny shrivelled 'Skeletons' will not quell the onslaught of 'Hunger' in 'Africa', nor will it solve the 'Water Shortages' or 'Lack of Medical Care' in many other parts of the world BUT, a
concerted effort of 'Government' or 'Private' concerns easily COULD if they concentrated MORE on the welfare of the people and LESS on their 'Military or Private Objectives' BUT, the opportunity for 'Emotional Blackmail' would not exist and the 'Decent Folk' would almost certainly turn their attention to the 'REAL' causes of the hardships they already have to deal with, a simple 'Trick' really, if it were not for the misfortune of others (in most cases purposely manufactured) the 'Decent Folk' would have nothing to compare themselves with and would surely want drastic changes.

It is not until you get 'Close Up' and live among the distress of those who suffer, that you become really aware of how futile the work of those who dedicate their lives to help the deprived IS, it is not until you actually experience and live among deprivation that you learn just how unnecessary it is and how easily such problems could be solved.

The 'Governments' have what they call 'War Chests'......"Great Stuff'........ Declare 'War' on 'Poverty', Starvation', 'Homelessness' and a host of other ills in the world, I don't know if you realise it folks BUT, there are 'NO WARS' going on at the moment, in order that such situations exist, they must be 'Declared' and (unless I am mistaken) other than 'Bush's' nonsensical 'War on Terror', the whole meaning of the word 'WAR' has been bandied about and used to add a little 'Grace' to acts of 'Murder' and 'Mayhem' in the 'Middle East'.

How about 'Parachuting' a few 'Plane-Loads' of 'Rice' near the starving masses of those who have been driven from their homes, I rather fancy they would rather die by being slaughtered by a descending bag of 'Rice' or maybe a 'Pallet of Heinz Baked Beans' than a 'Bomb' or 'Rocket' from 'Whoever's' side of the fence it may have come.

Incidentally, the 'Obvious' yet apparently 'Unseen' facts about the welfare of both our own population (and others) is that we are ALL paying for such care every time we spend money, regardless of where we spend it............ "Think about it".