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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby die7 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:58 pm

Everything is needed!
Food donations, especially for babies are needed at best yesterday, but of course money is needed as well for specials needs, clothes, electricity bills, school things for children.......Also clothes, blankets and 'luxury things' such as soap, washing powder, tooth paste a.so. are welcome.
Consider, wintertime is around the corner, school started and there are children who don't even have a hot meal a day.
In this country there are people who are starving!
Many of us have financial problems but more and more have NOTHING!
You are right GreekIslandGirl, many ''official sites'' could do much more. I think it's the mentality to turn a blind eye on the reality if it is embarrassing, also to refuse to believe it AND to concern onself just with the own family.
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby B25 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:07 pm

Flying Horse wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:There's a shameful waste of agricultural products from what I've seen. Things left to rot or thrown away by the more affluent who still have fields to produce crops.

The village Co-Ops could do a lot more to help, and of course improving agricultural practices to minimize waste should be a government priority.

Many migrants and destitute families are seasonal farm-workers who are never paid enough to have reserves to last the quieter seasons. No one should go hungry in a place like Cyprus.

Selfishness and greed. 'It's mine' mentality.

Even on a small plot of land, I can grow far more than my family needs. When there is too much, what is the point in letting it rot? Give it away to someone who needs it!
Landowners of the fresh produce variety in Cyprus should be ashamed!


Utter bollocks, as much as I do agree in principle that food should not be wasted, it is market forces that prevent excess food being given to poor nations/people. F all to do with the land owners. The EU, waste millions of tons of food down mines to keep the market prices stable and people in business. If stuff was given out, people would not buy and go and get it free, and the downward spiral begins.

I suggest they tax the MP's and bankers a %age of their ill-gotten salaries and help feed these people as it is they that put us here in the first place, with a larger percentage to the village idiot and his AKEL cronies.

It really does sadden me to see and hear this, as I make every effort to buy extra when I shop and put it in food banks in our own area. perhaps the theiving developers should make a bigger community contribution in their own areas???? Especially in the Paphos area.
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:15 pm

I don't think it's intentional on the part of the more affluent natives. It's a new problem really. Most landowners who produce too much have always let crops rot before - because nobody wanted or needed the stuff! The smell of mountains of rotting melons will never leave me.

So it's about changing the mindset so that Cypriot crop producers no longer feel embarrassed that they will shame someone by offering them their excess.

It's no surprise to me that the most affluent agricultural part of Cyprus (Paphos) which has the most migrant workers (my village was flooded with them this summer) are the ones now facing starving people.

This is definitely something that can be tackled quickly on a local level by the Co-Ops (who benefit from migrant workers) and on a country-wide level by government so that farmers are better trained for year-round turnovers. It's not enough for Anastasiades to say the government doesn't have money to put towards welfare right now - they need to tackle this at the education stage and it's not something they can turn their back on as it will happen every single year if we are to have cheap farmworkers over the high seasons.
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby kurupetos » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:24 pm

die7 wrote:From cyprusmail today:
http://cyprus-mail.com/2013/09/17/dozen ... t-of-food/

Please leave your computer alone and help NOW.

Here the link for the drop off points:
http://www.solidaritypaphos.com/drop-off-points

Bejay sounds like a black's name. What is he doing in Cyprus? :evil:

It is better to provide all donations to ELAM, to make sure the supplies reach legit GC citizens of the island, and not Turks or other foreigners. AKEL supporters should be excluded as well. :wink:
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:27 pm

It's not utter bollox. It takes one set of people to come out from hiding behind their embarrassment.
There is no rule in this world that can say a person can't have a change of conscience.


Money and greed.
Pure and simple.

If a main supermarket in the UK can donate its excesses to charity, what stops everyone else in the world, rich and well known?
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby B25 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:31 pm

Flying Horse wrote:It's not utter bollox. It takes one set of people to come out from hiding behind their embarrassment.
There is no rule in this world that can say a person can't have a change of conscience.


Money and greed.
Pure and simple.

If a main supermarket in the UK can donate its excesses to charity, what stops everyone else in the world, rich and well known?


Supermarkets are different, they have already bought it.

I would also say, that they migrant workers that I know are always bringing home food stuffs from their places of work, I find it hard to believe that the farmer would not allow them to take what's left, in fact, take some of the saleable produce as well, within reason.
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby Flying Horse » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:50 pm

B25 wrote:[Supermarkets are different, they have already bought it.

I would also say, that they migrant workers that I know are always bringing home food stuffs from their places of work, I find it hard to believe that the farmer would not allow them to take what's left, in fact, take some of the saleable produce as well, within reason.


Bit of a bad example I know, principles are the same. You have excess...give it away, and learn not to grow so much!

It just really gets my goat, that in developed and 'European' countries that this sort of thing is going on. Infuriates me no end :evil:

Wasn't there an initiative set up in the early days of the bail out, for people to come forward with land they don't use to convert it to workable, food producing land for the less well off? If so, how did this pan out, I'd be interested to know.
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:11 pm

Most Cypriots are not short of land to produce some crops for food for their own use. That's not where the problem lies.

Growing crops is very expensive.

From what I have noticed, the problem is generated by the number of migrant workers that have flooded Cyprus. They don't usually have the means to use someone else's land to start growing produce. The outlay for trees, fertilisers etc is huge. I don't know how long their visas last, but they are meant to be temporary. Farming requires years of input to be successful.
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby die7 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:16 pm

Solidarity Paphos would be delighted with every person who spends one day with them and looks in the eyes of the families who have no other chance to survive but
begging for some food at a charity!
Very few have the guts to do that and face up to the reality PERSONALLY. It' s always easier to orate. Has [i]Bejay's[/i] baby no right to have food?
Go there and tell them face to face,cause they don't have internet.........
If everyone of the 274 readers of this thread would go to the supermarket and donate food for 10 Euros, this would be helpful and humanly.
All the discussions can wait....
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Re: Reality in Cyprus nowadays

Postby B25 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:31 pm

die7 wrote:Solidarity Paphos would be delighted with every person who spends one day with them and looks in the eyes of the families who have no other chance to survive but
begging for some food at a charity!
Very few have the guts to do that and face up to the reality PERSONALLY. It' s always easier to orate. Has [i]Bejay's[/i] baby no right to have food?
Go there and tell them face to face,cause they don't have internet.........
If everyone of the 274 readers of this thread would go to the supermarket and donate food for 10 Euros, this would be helpful and humanly.
All the discussions can wait....


I've made my donation, you??? Barking orders from the sunny UK is a bit rich, don't you think??
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