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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby stpier » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:31 pm

Well well look at what happened in Anatolian town of Zakynthos:


Four other Britons were injured in the incident in the resort of Laganas. One is in a serious condition, the Foreign Office confirmed.

A 21-year-old Greek taxi driver has been charged with murder and his 25-year-old colleague with complicity to commit murder.

Both are due in court in connection with the incident, which happened at about 4.30am on Wednesday.

‘The taxi drivers were involved in an argument with a group of six foreign nationals, resulting in a physical confrontation,’ said Zakynthos police.

‘A 21-year-old taxi driver attacked and injured five British nationals, one of whom suffered fatal injuries.’

A knife thought to have been used in the attack has been recovered.
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby stpier » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:36 pm

Oh look at these barbarian Anatolians in Mykonos:

AMBUSHED late at night by four men in Greece, Sydney tourists Doujon Zammit and his cousin Cameron Tabone offered no resistance.

The two young Australians hoped if they complied they would escape unharmed, Mr Tabone says in his police statement.

"I wanted us to show them that we were not going to offer any resistance, hoping that they would just rob us and let us free," his statement reads.

It was a course of action their families say was drilled into them before they set off on their travels, but ultimately it would not keep them safe.

In the attack that followed, Mr Tabone says he watched as his cousin suffered repeated blows while lying defenceless on the ground.

Nightclub bouncer Marios Antonopoulos is charged with murdering Mr Zammit, with three other men facing various charges relating to the attack.

Mr Tabone and other key witnesses are not attending the trial of the four men, which resumed on Mytilene on the island of Lesbos last night.

However their police statements, tendered in court and obtained by News Ltd, provide eye-witness accounts of the attack for the first time.

The two cousins, both 20, had been out at the Tropicana bar and nightclub on the island of Mykonos on 28 July 2008.

They left the bar at about 11pm, riding on the back of a quad bike with two other Australians.
It has been claimed a handbag went missing, prompting a posse of staff to set out after the Australians, but Mr Tabone says there was no sign of trouble when they left.

"From the time we arrived at the bar until the time we left, nobody bothered us," he says in his police statement, made in Athens a day after the attack.

Mr Tabone says he and his cousin decided to get off the bike some distance from the bar because they felt unsafe.

A short time later they were cut off by a dark jeep, and four men jumped out yelling "police".
"From what I could see (they) were holding expandable metal batons in their hands," Mr Tabone said.

"I realised that these people who'd stopped us were not policemen, not only by the clothes they were wearing but also because they showed us no ID."

The pair were made to face the wall and were searched, before Mr Tabone was struck in the face and Mr Zammit was knocked to the ground.

Another Australian tourist who was driving past had stopped to help and was also bashed, before the four attackers left.

"We tried to revive my cousin who was unconscious," Mr Tabone's statement, translated from Greek, says.

"After about five minutes he recovered and stood up. About 20 minutes after the incident the ambulance arrived.

"At some point on the way (to the local medical centre) my cousin lost his senses and never regained them after that."

Driving the quad bike was an Australian named in court documents as Rene Ferris, whose account of the ordeal differed in some parts.

Mr Ferris told of initially being pursued by a man on a motorbike who was holding a torch and shouting “police”.

He did not stop because the man was wearing a Tropicana bar t-shirt. A short-time later his quad bike was cut off by another vehicle.

Four men jumped out of the vehicle and pushed all three Australians against a wall before the attack began, Mr Ferris' police statement says.

Loretta Rezk, named as the front-seat passenger on the quad bike, said she ran away in fear after watching the four men push her friends against the wall.

Antonopoulos has admitted taking part in the assault but denies an intention to kill.

Bar workers George Chatzioannou and Dimitris Varonas are charged with being accessories to murder for allegedly taking part in the attack but each have claimed in court that they were simply passing by the area at the time.

Tropicana owner Stamatis Daktylidis is accused of supplying fold-out metal batons used in the assault. A 17-year-old is also accused of being involved in the attack and will face a separate trial is a youth court.
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby stpier » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:40 pm

Anatolian crimes:


Greek police beat Korean tourist, stonewall investigation


Original article in Korean is at this link.

While on holiday in Greece, one of our citizens says that he suffered anattack in which local police officers beat him and told him “Korean, Go Home” and used racist expressions. Our media have since overflowed with anger and outrage towards Greece.

On the 24th one of our citizens logged on to a famous internet portal site and posted the outrageous story of his trip to Greece on the 14th, where he suffered a beating delivered by multiple police officers because he, fearing that they might be imposters, had asked to see their identification after they had stopped him to ask about his travel bag. He wrote that hefirmly intends to stay in Greece until the officers who attacked him, and their superiors, are punished.

This is the story as he told it. At approximately 7 pm on the 16th (local time) he was on a street in Athens when he suddenly heard a man telling him to stop, and thought it might be a merchant or a swindler. The man was actually a local plainclothes police officer. The plainclothes officer was with other officers, who demanded to see the man’s identification. However, he thought they might be imposters attempting to con him. He asked to see their badges.

“I thoought they might have been conmen wearing police clothes, they had t-shirts saying ‘Police’ in English,” he wrote. However, the actions of the police were totally unpredictable. One of the officers whom he had requested identification from punched him in the head. “I thought something was wrong with this situation,” he wrote. He cried for help.

But the other two officers also beat him on his face, stomach, and side with their fists and feet, then took his wallet as he lay on the ground. He said to them “why did you hit me?” and “I didn’t know you were police. I’m sorry”, but each time the officers beat him again. He wrote in the internet post that “while they were beating me I saw their guns and even thought that if I made a mistake they would shoot and kill me.”

The attack continued in the police station. Unable to hear well for a time, he was released after learning the address of the police. But when he asked other officers in the station where the exit was as he was leaving, they told him “Korean go home” and used racist expressions. He wrote that “actually the worst thing of all, worse than the beating, was when they used those racist words. It was extremely deep racism.”

He went to the police with members of our Embassy on the 22nd in order to protest the unmotivated attack, but the police there refused to talk, evaded the questions of our Embassy employees, and then left, he said.

He wrote that “if I cannot track down those two police officers I will not leave Greece until their superiors are punished. Employees of our consulate said they had never experienced a difficult situation such as this one. I want our government to protest as well.”

As soon as he uploaded his story the media grabbed hold of it. His post received over 30,000 views in the first 12 hours after he posted it on the night of the 23rd, with 570 upvotes and over 230 replies. Many others posted their own stories of terrible experiences traveling in other countries.

Our netizens heaped abuse on Greece, known recently for its economic woes and social unrest. One wrote that “Greece is in chaos now. In Korea if such a thing happened the President would come out and apologize, it would be that big of a thing, the Greek police should do the same.” Another wrote that “Greece promotes itself to the world for tourism and then its police use violence and racist language. This country should be forgotten about it.”

An official with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade said that “we are aware of the incident and are investigating the circumstances.”
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:40 pm

stpier wrote:Well well look at what happened in Anatolian town of Zakynthos:

Idiotic Kimon thinks that by highlighting isolated incidents in Turkey against foreigners he’s going to win brownie points! :roll: :lol:

There’s probably not a country in the world that hasn’t murdered a tourist or two… :roll:
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby stpier » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:43 pm

Enough is enough Anatolians!!

'Beast of Kavos' given record 52-year sentence for raping more than seven British tourists at knifepoint in Corfu
A Greek rapist known as the 'Beast of Kavos' who attacked at least seven British women in Corfu was jailed for a record 52 years yesterday.
Dimitris Aspiotis, 39, will not be considered for parole until he is 91, which is believed to be the longest sentence given in a Greek court for rape.
Three of his British victims gave evidence against the cocaine-snorting thug in a trial in Igoumenitsa, on the Greek mainland.
The brutal knifepoint attacks took place in the space of just a month-and-a-half, after he was released halfway through a six-year sentence for sex attacks on other British tourists.
Following his repeat offence in August 2010, he appeared in a magistrates court on the holiday island and was ordered to return to a mainland prison.
He was also charged with violating the terms of his release while on a suspended sentence for rape and robbery of British women since 1997, when he was 25 years old.
Aspiotis would trap the women on a woodland path after partying with them on the beach and repeatedly rape them for hours.
A holiday rep from Preston, Lancashire, wept as she described her ordeal in court.
'He would talk to me politely, calmly, and then rape me,' she said. 'Within that time he raped me a total of six times.
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:There’s probably not a country in the world that hasn’t murdered a tourist or two… :roll:



For sure. But "stpier" thinks these individual murders equalize with some 2 Million people who suffered systematic state-sponsored genocide based on their being Armenian or Greek in order to remove them from their lands of thousands of years to make room for the nomads with an identity crisis, aka "turks".
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:36 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:There’s probably not a country in the world that hasn’t murdered a tourist or two… :roll:



For sure. But "stpier" thinks these individual murders equalize with some 2 Million people who suffered systematic state-sponsored genocide based on their being Armenian or Greek in order to remove them from their lands of thousands of years to make room for the nomads with an identity crisis, aka "turks".

As a Cypriot I’m only interested in the Ottoman genocide of Cypriots (1571..1878) but the Greeks and Armenians will have to fight their own battles on their own forums. We've got enough of our own problems to worry about.
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:45 pm

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:There’s probably not a country in the world that hasn’t murdered a tourist or two… :roll:



For sure. But "stpier" thinks these individual murders equalize with some 2 Million people who suffered systematic state-sponsored genocide based on their being Armenian or Greek in order to remove them from their lands of thousands of years to make room for the nomads with an identity crisis, aka "turks".

As a Cypriot I’m only interested in the Ottoman genocide of Cypriots (1571..1878) but the Greeks and Armenians will have to fight their own battles on their own forums. We've got enough of our own problems to worry about.


As I said, you are too limited to make the necessary connections. Fortunately, the RoC is plugging away at ALL these very relevant arguments.
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby kimon07 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:48 pm

stpier wrote:Enough is enough Anatolians!!


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Diary of women murders

Violence against women in Turkey is a never-ending circle. Almost every single day a woman is killed in any corner of this country. They are killed by their husbands, partners and sometimes by their brothers and fathers. They are killed because they leave their abusive husbands; they are killed to protect the “honor” of the family and for many other things.

We do not have enough shelters for women. The police and judiciary are not sensitive about domestic violence. And we have so many other factors contributing to this vicious circle. In March 2012 this government introduced a new law to protect women against violence. This new law provides more protection to women, at least on paper. The law also increases penalties in relation to breaches of measures protecting women. However, despite this very law entering into force, new murders and physical and psychological attacks have continued without interruption. Bianet has just published a monthly report about violence against women, which documents attacks against women that took place just in March. The full report is almost 10 pages long, and it includes rape, beatings, harassment as well as murders. To give you the test of the bitterness of violence against women, I have picked murders from this report and have listed them below. Here is the murder diary for March:
“March 1
A man named A.G., 31, stabbed his ex-wife Sebahat Gezer, 33, to death in front of his four-year-old daughter in a park in İzmir. After the murder, A.G. surrendered to the police and was arrested.
A man named A.C. shot his wife Feride Canıbol to death after a quarrel in her workplace in İstanbul. A.C. gave himself up to the police. In Ankara, a man named Y.K., 36, killed his wife Tülin K., 31, with a pump-action rifle at her home for filing for divorce against him. Y.K. was arrested. Previously, Tülin had been under police protection, but she hadn’t extended her request for protection after the first one expired.
March 4
In Gaziantep, a man named A.Ç., 27, attempted to rape Neslihan Polatbilek, 29, whom he had promised to find a job. When the woman resisted him, he killed her with a stone. A.Ç. had escaped from the prison in Gaziantep one day before the murder.
March 9
In İstanbul, a man named Ö.M. shot to death Japarzade Diyar Bengitay, 40, the wife of his cousin, at a medical center where she was receiving treatment after a violent incident. It was reported that there was an ongoing divorce suit between the women and her husband, F.B., and she had previously complained to police about her husband’s ill-treatment; F.B. had previously been jailed for 10 years for killing his last wife. Ö.M. was detained and said that F.B. had told him to kill his wife.
March 11
In Ankara, a man named M.Y., 31, gunned his girlfriend Funda Yıldırım, 28, to death. M.Y. reportedly wounded her with a gun and threatened her two years ago.
March 22
In İzmir, a man named T.Y., 50, seriously wounded his daughter T.Y. with a pump-action rifle and killed Ali Ürken, 26, with whom she was living. Also, a man named K.Y., 52, who was watching TV at home, was wounded because of the buckshot. After the incident, T.Y. attempted to commit suicide.
March 23
In Urfa, a man named A.Ü.G., 17, killed Naime Solmaz, 74, with a stick after breaking into her house. He was referred to the court on charges of premeditated murder and assault and was arrested.
March 26
In İstanbul, a man named H.İ.Y. shot to death his wife, Suzan Yıldırım, 29, who was pregnant, in a car. He abandoned his car in Gebze and went into hiding.
March 27
In Ordu, a man V.A., 57, killed his ex-wife Esme Türk, 48, with a pump-action rifle in the marketplace. V.A. was apprehended and taken into custody.
In İstanbul, İ.F. stabbed his wife Demet Filcan, 30, to death at a spot just 150 meters away from the Silivri Courthouse on the day the divorce action between them was to be heard.
March 30
In Manisa, A.B., 26, stabbed his wife Ş.B., 25, to death and then gave himself up to the gendarmerie. In İzmir, a transsexual named Tuğçe Şahin was beaten and shot to death.”
The diary is like a nightmare. Can we solve this deep-rooted problem by only issuing a few new laws? I really do not think so. Violence against women is not unique to Turkey; women in all parts of the world suffer from domestic violence in all different forms. However, each country has its own unique factors contributing to this epidemic. It is high time for Turkey to look deep into this problem and try to see all of its facets. We really need to have a comprehensive questioning to this end.
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Re: Kurds in Turkey Seek Forgiveness For 1915 Armenian Trage

Postby kimon07 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:51 pm

Turkey sees a fourth Muslim hate crime on British tourist within weeks of each other
July 7, 2013 • by Moderator • in Muslims WorldWide

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/201 ... ach-other/


Hotel violence against Russian, Armenian tourists in Turkey

…….The girls reproved the waiters, but they got into an argument and told the girls to ‘shut up.’ Four young men from Russia were sitting at the next table – two of them Armenians. They tried to find out what had happened. In answer, Turks used foul language, and there was a scuffle. The security guards did not do anything to part the sides. All the male staffers attacked the four boys and beat them up in everybody’s presence. At last, some of the holiday-makers interfered and parted the sides. The young men were taken to one of the lounge bars.
“At that moment, my husband and I were coming back to the hotel and tried to get in touch with our elder son Hovhanes. At that very moment, Hovhanes returned to the lounge. The four young men, who had made friends with him before, asked him to bring their mobile phones. One of the hotel staff members hit Hovhanes with his shoulder and, turning back to him, insulted him. Hovhanes said he was careful, but the Turk began to push him. There was a fight, and 20 people beat up my son. A Tatar man from Russia tried to help Hovhanes rise, but the Turks attacked the man, beat him and broke his ribs. When I saw Hovhanes after the scuffle, I could not recognize my son. His face was swollen even after we washed the blood off. When my husband Artur tried to find out what had happened, about 20 hotel staffers took him and his friend Khachik out of the building and beat them up. One of the staffers took out a knife, another sprayed tear gas.
“The nightmare lasted for three hours. I could not turn to anyone for explanations.

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