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[Demonax]

The division has proven that there are far less serious incidents than when we lived together so disputing this is futile, the fact that you can be easily found out if you do anything wrong is a deterrant in itself. Now force us to mix and who knows what will happen you are no innocent and we would no doubt retaliate so the two stat or region call it what you will is vital in any future solution.

I asked for you examples of violent incidents since the border crossings opened and you can provide nothing other than cars being scratched and some anecdotal 'rudeness’. This despite the fact that the northern part of the island is under occupation and up to a third of the population in the free areas have been victims of ethnic cleansing.

You now say that this is because people would be 'caught' if they did anything wrong. Yes, VP. This is called obeying the 'law'.

People will ‘mix’ under a federal solution whether you like it or not. You cannot have 'laws' which prevent people from the same country from living and working together. That is called 'apartheid' and is universally unacceptable and outlawed under EU legislation.

[Viewpoint]

The division has proven that there are far less serious incidents than when we lived together so disputing this is futile, the fact that you can be easily found out if you do anything wrong is a deterrant in itself. Now force us to mix and who knows what will happen you are no innocent and we would no doubt retaliate so the two stat or region call it what you will is vital in any future solution.

I asked for you examples of violent incidents since the border crossings opened and you can provide nothing other than cars being scratched and some anecdotal 'rudeness’. This despite the fact that the northern part of the island is under occupation and up to a third of the population in the free areas have been victims of ethnic cleansing.

You now say that this is because people would be 'caught' if they did anything wrong. Yes, VP. This is called obeying the 'law'.

People will ‘mix’ under a federal solution whether you like it or not. You cannot have 'laws' which prevent people from the same country from living and working together. That is called 'apartheid' and is universally unacceptable and outlawed under EU legislation.

Hello again you forget that I support a federal solution and the freedom of movement between the 2 states, so the mixing will occur within predetermined areas adminsitered by each community, having these states allows for transparency and acts as a deterrant, but returning to the mixing of the past where according to your own theory above it was lawless or people did not obey the law is not an option.

[Demonax]

Hello again you forget that I support a federal solution and the freedom of movement between the 2 states, so the mixing will occur within predetermined areas adminsitered by each community, having these states allows for transparency and acts as a deterrant, but returning to the mixing of the past where according to your own theory above it was lawless or people did not obey the law is not an option.

If you support freedom of movement how do you propose to stop people from buying property, investing and living in the respective two 'zones' of any proposed federal state?

[boulio]

and having rights as well when it come to voting.

[Lordo]

there is no problem for gcs buying property in the north. any gc who has the balls to move north, live next to a settler and pay their taxes to kktf is in effect for all intense and purposes a turk, so they are welcome.

[bill cobbett]

there is no problem for gcs buying property in the north. any gc who has the balls to move north, live next to a settler and pay their taxes to kktf is in effect for all intense and purposes a turk, so they are welcome.

You would do well to look up what pass for "property laws" and a "constitution" in "trnc" Bordo...

... There's an outright ban on anyone of "gc" ancestry "buying" land in the apartheid "trnc" .

[Lordo]

I did not say there is not. and i am willing to help anybody who wishes to buy genuinely in any way i can. i am simply saying what i believe.

you boys will not accept any solution without total freedom and tcs fear the consequences of what happen with really thinking about the realities.

in reality there is no problem. if there is peace and people are free to move they will not move across in numbers. you will probably get a few thousand elderly who retired and wish to finish their life where they were born and i suspect they will wish to be buried in the south after.

[bill cobbett]

I did not say there is not. and i am willing to help anybody who wishes to buy genuinely in any way i can. i am simply saying what i believe.

you boys will not accept any solution without total freedom and tcs fear the consequences of what happen with really thinking about the realities.

in reality there is no problem. if there is peace and people are free to move they will not move across in numbers. you will probably get a few thousand elderly who retired and wish to finish their life where they were born and i suspect they will wish to be buried in the south after.

Well that's jolly, jolly decent of you to offer to help Bordo...

... but you really also need to consider who in their right mind would want to move from the Free Areas and live next door to you and VP...???

... no offence intended.

[Viewpoint]

Hello again you forget that I support a federal solution and the freedom of movement between the 2 states, so the mixing will occur within predetermined areas adminsitered by each community, having these states allows for transparency and acts as a deterrant, but returning to the mixing of the past where according to your own theory above it was lawless or people did not obey the law is not an option.

If you support freedom of movement how do you propose to stop people from buying property, investing and living in the respective two 'zones' of any proposed federal state?

I wont, people should be allowed the freedom to move and live in which ever state they wish.

[Viewpoint]

and having rights as well when it come to voting.

Pan voting would be the best solution with quotas for first past the post MPs from each state.