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Is this fact or fiction?

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:25 pm

"Cyprus is the common home of the Greek Cypriot community and of the Turkish Cypriot community. Their relationship is not one of majority and minority but one of two communities in the State of Cyprus. The mandate given to me by the Security Council makes it clear that my mission of good offices is with these two communities. My mandate is also explicit that the participation of the two communities in this process is on an equal footing. The solution that is being sought is thus one that must be decided upon by, and, must be acceptable to both communities. It must also respect the cultural, religious, social and linguistic identity of each community."
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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:59 pm

Fiction because…

I for one do NOT belong to some Greek community as assumed by certain individuals but I’m a genuine native descendant of Cyprus with no other ethnic affiliations whatsoever. Period.

The so called “Turkish Cypriots” are NOT a genuine indigenous Cypriot minority but remnants of the now defunct Ottoman invasions so I therefore refuse to acknowledge the notion that they are entitled to any special rights in my non-Ottoman country.

I cannot accept these people as forming any part of a Cypriot government any more than I would approve a group of Punjabis having special rights in the government of Spain or in any other country for that matter.

It is unfortunate that they find themselves in an awkward situation today as a result of the actions of their Ottoman ancestors but that is NOT my problem and I should NOT be burdened with it.

I also do NOT recognize any past agreements that are contrary to my opinion above that may have been made by former governments or organizations under duress with respect to Cyprus.

Finally, I completely and unequivocally REJECT the “dual community” theory purported by some as it is contrary to the sovereignty and ancestral rights of native Cypriots.
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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby Maximus » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:05 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:"Cyprus is the common home of the Greek Cypriot community and of the Turkish Cypriot community. Their relationship is not one of majority and minority but one of two communities in the State of Cyprus. The mandate given to me by the Security Council makes it clear that my mission of good offices is with these two communities. My mandate is also explicit that the participation of the two communities in this process is on an equal footing. The solution that is being sought is thus one that must be decided upon by, and, must be acceptable to both communities. It must also respect the cultural, religious, social and linguistic identity of each community."


May I ask where you took this from?
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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:Fiction because…

I for one do NOT belong to some Greek community as assumed by certain individuals but I’m a genuine native descendant of Cyprus with no other ethnic affiliations whatsoever. Period.

The so called “Turkish Cypriots” are NOT a genuine indigenous Cypriot minority but remnants of the now defunct Ottoman invasions so I therefore refuse to acknowledge the notion that they are entitled to any special rights in my non-Ottoman country.

I cannot accept these people as forming any part of a Cypriot government any more than I would approve a group of Punjabis having special rights in the government of Spain or in any other country for that matter.

It is unfortunate that they find themselves in an awkward situation today as a result of the actions of their Ottoman ancestors but that is NOT my problem and I should NOT be burdened with it.

I also do NOT recognize any past agreements that are contrary to my opinion above that may have been made by former governments or organizations under duress with respect to Cyprus.

Finally, I completely and unequivocally REJECT the “dual community” theory purported by some as it is contrary to the sovereignty and ancestral rights of native Cypriots.


Get Real!!! now come back down to earth and face the reality.
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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby DrCyprus » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:24 pm

Maximus wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:"Cyprus is the common home of the Greek Cypriot community and of the Turkish Cypriot community. Their relationship is not one of majority and minority but one of two communities in the State of Cyprus. The mandate given to me by the Security Council makes it clear that my mission of good offices is with these two communities. My mandate is also explicit that the participation of the two communities in this process is on an equal footing. The solution that is being sought is thus one that must be decided upon by, and, must be acceptable to both communities. It must also respect the cultural, religious, social and linguistic identity of each community."


May I ask where you took this from?


from this: http://besparmakblog.blogspot.com/
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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby Maximus » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:33 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
Maximus wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:"Cyprus is the common home of the Greek Cypriot community and of the Turkish Cypriot community. Their relationship is not one of majority and minority but one of two communities in the State of Cyprus. The mandate given to me by the Security Council makes it clear that my mission of good offices is with these two communities. My mandate is also explicit that the participation of the two communities in this process is on an equal footing. The solution that is being sought is thus one that must be decided upon by, and, must be acceptable to both communities. It must also respect the cultural, religious, social and linguistic identity of each community."


May I ask where you took this from?


from this: http://besparmakblog.blogspot.com/


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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Fiction because…

I for one do NOT belong to some Greek community as assumed by certain individuals but I’m a genuine native descendant of Cyprus with no other ethnic affiliations whatsoever. Period.

The so called “Turkish Cypriots” are NOT a genuine indigenous Cypriot minority but remnants of the now defunct Ottoman invasions so I therefore refuse to acknowledge the notion that they are entitled to any special rights in my non-Ottoman country.

I cannot accept these people as forming any part of a Cypriot government any more than I would approve a group of Punjabis having special rights in the government of Spain or in any other country for that matter.

It is unfortunate that they find themselves in an awkward situation today as a result of the actions of their Ottoman ancestors but that is NOT my problem and I should NOT be burdened with it.

I also do NOT recognize any past agreements that are contrary to my opinion above that may have been made by former governments or organizations under duress with respect to Cyprus.

Finally, I completely and unequivocally REJECT the “dual community” theory purported by some as it is contrary to the sovereignty and ancestral rights of native Cypriots.


Get Real!!! now come back down to earth and face the reality.

I don’t bargain or do deals over my homeland with anyone let alone with half-baked pseudo “Cypriots” …be they from Turkey, Greece, or Guatemala! I couldn't care less.

I strongly advise you ALL to return to your homelands and forget Cyprus because it's not for you.
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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:05 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Fiction because…

I for one do NOT belong to some Greek community as assumed by certain individuals but I’m a genuine native descendant of Cyprus with no other ethnic affiliations whatsoever. Period.

The so called “Turkish Cypriots” are NOT a genuine indigenous Cypriot minority but remnants of the now defunct Ottoman invasions so I therefore refuse to acknowledge the notion that they are entitled to any special rights in my non-Ottoman country.

I cannot accept these people as forming any part of a Cypriot government any more than I would approve a group of Punjabis having special rights in the government of Spain or in any other country for that matter.

It is unfortunate that they find themselves in an awkward situation today as a result of the actions of their Ottoman ancestors but that is NOT my problem and I should NOT be burdened with it.

I also do NOT recognize any past agreements that are contrary to my opinion above that may have been made by former governments or organizations under duress with respect to Cyprus.

Finally, I completely and unequivocally REJECT the “dual community” theory purported by some as it is contrary to the sovereignty and ancestral rights of native Cypriots.


Get Real!!! now come back down to earth and face the reality.

I don’t bargain or do deals over my homeland with anyone let alone with half-baked pseudo “Cypriots” …be they from Turkey, Greece, or Guatemala! I couldn't care less.

I strongly advise you ALL to return to your homelands and forget Cyprus because it's not for you.


I can't believe what I'm reading. These are the views of the likes of Idi Amin, Robert Mughabi and Hitler. I am most disappointed, such a shame for an educated, smart and well travelled gentleman.

Cyprus has a well documented history and it clearly states the TC's have a right to call it HOME.
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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby DrCyprus » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:10 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Fiction because…

I for one do NOT belong to some Greek community as assumed by certain individuals but I’m a genuine native descendant of Cyprus with no other ethnic affiliations whatsoever. Period.

The so called “Turkish Cypriots” are NOT a genuine indigenous Cypriot minority but remnants of the now defunct Ottoman invasions so I therefore refuse to acknowledge the notion that they are entitled to any special rights in my non-Ottoman country.

I cannot accept these people as forming any part of a Cypriot government any more than I would approve a group of Punjabis having special rights in the government of Spain or in any other country for that matter.

It is unfortunate that they find themselves in an awkward situation today as a result of the actions of their Ottoman ancestors but that is NOT my problem and I should NOT be burdened with it.

I also do NOT recognize any past agreements that are contrary to my opinion above that may have been made by former governments or organizations under duress with respect to Cyprus.

Finally, I completely and unequivocally REJECT the “dual community” theory purported by some as it is contrary to the sovereignty and ancestral rights of native Cypriots.


Get Real!!! now come back down to earth and face the reality.

I don’t bargain or do deals over my homeland with anyone let alone with half-baked pseudo “Cypriots” …be they from Turkey, Greece, or Guatemala! I couldn't care less.

I strongly advise you ALL to return to your homelands and forget Cyprus because it's not for you.


I can't believe what I'm reading. These are the views of the likes of Idi Amin, Robert Mughabi and Hitler. I am most disappointed, such a shame for an educated, smart and well travelled gentleman.

Cyprus has a well documented history and it clearly states the TC's have a right to call it HOME.


Cypriots have a right to call it home, whether Turcophone or Hellenophone. Turkish people should go to Turkey.
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Re: Is this fact or fiction?

Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:24 pm

DrCyprus wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Fiction because…

I for one do NOT belong to some Greek community as assumed by certain individuals but I’m a genuine native descendant of Cyprus with no other ethnic affiliations whatsoever. Period.

The so called “Turkish Cypriots” are NOT a genuine indigenous Cypriot minority but remnants of the now defunct Ottoman invasions so I therefore refuse to acknowledge the notion that they are entitled to any special rights in my non-Ottoman country.

I cannot accept these people as forming any part of a Cypriot government any more than I would approve a group of Punjabis having special rights in the government of Spain or in any other country for that matter.

It is unfortunate that they find themselves in an awkward situation today as a result of the actions of their Ottoman ancestors but that is NOT my problem and I should NOT be burdened with it.

I also do NOT recognize any past agreements that are contrary to my opinion above that may have been made by former governments or organizations under duress with respect to Cyprus.

Finally, I completely and unequivocally REJECT the “dual community” theory purported by some as it is contrary to the sovereignty and ancestral rights of native Cypriots.


Get Real!!! now come back down to earth and face the reality.

I don’t bargain or do deals over my homeland with anyone let alone with half-baked pseudo “Cypriots” …be they from Turkey, Greece, or Guatemala! I couldn't care less.

I strongly advise you ALL to return to your homelands and forget Cyprus because it's not for you.


I can't believe what I'm reading. These are the views of the likes of Idi Amin, Robert Mughabi and Hitler. I am most disappointed, such a shame for an educated, smart and well travelled gentleman.

Cyprus has a well documented history and it clearly states the TC's have a right to call it HOME.


Cypriots have a right to call it home, whether Turcophone or Hellenophone. Turkish people should go to Turkey.

My views on the settlers have always been very clear. They are the undesirables and each and every one should go back home.

My problem is as a Cypriot, all be it Turkish speaking, to be told to go back to Turkey is heartbreaking. I have nothing in common with Turks of Turkey and I'm as much a Cypriot as any of the Greek speaking Cypriots.
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